• CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
    43·
    2 months ago

    I assume that the whole “Stalin starved his people” thing isn’t talking about the average conditions of the Soviet Union during more “normal” times, but rather specific events of mass starvation like the Holodomor. That being said, famine caused by accidental or malicious management of agriculture is something hardly unique to any single economic system (I imagine a comparison could be made to the Irish potato famine there, for an example of a similar type of disaster under a different economic system), so I’m not sure if it reflects entirely on the kind of system the Soviets were going for as much as it does mistakes in the process of transitioning to that system, and malfeasance on the part of those in charge in pushing the consequences of those mistakes upon disfavored groups.

    • Sonori@beehaw.org
      7·
      2 months ago

      Personally I tend to think that the Bengal famine is better compared to the Holodomor, as it is closer in time, area, and effect. If there is a lesson to these things though, I think it’s that it doesn’t matter what economic system you use of the people in charge are fans of eugenics, and that’s why it’s so important that there be strong independent checks on the government and politicians, minority representation, multi-party rule, etc…

      • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        3·
        2 months ago

        why it’s so important that there be strong independent checks on the government and politicians, minority representation, multi-party rule, etc…

        That kind of liberal propaganda is not appreciated here ;)

  • eating3645@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    The report was issued in 1983, Stalin died in 1953. The Ukrainian famine was around 1933. I suspect whoever made the meme is fully aware of these facts.

        • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
          8·
          2 months ago

          If it was a lie, you’d think they could do better than “communists are well fed with healthy whole grains”.

            • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
              5·
              2 months ago

              I get that you’re trying to be snarky, but it doesn’t even make sense to me.

              Are you trying to say soviet citizens were starving? Or that they had lots of meat fat and sugar?

              First one isn’t a flex for anyone. Second is propaganda far beyond what even OP was suggesting.

    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
      4·
      2 months ago

      If you actually read the wall of text, it explains that US citizens got more meat, sugar and fats than soviet citizens, who had to make do with grain in place of the higher value foods enjoyed by capitalist wage slaves.