• escaped_cruzader@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    People love to forget that free speech was vital for their progressive paradise, it’s a cicle

    If you implement measures for repressing speech today, those same measures will repress you or what you believe in today

    It just takes too long for any one person to notice or care

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      Honestly most people have no idea what actually constitutes freedom of speech. Having social reprocussions for that speech has always been a thing. Being shunned for being terrible or having people use their property rights to remove you from their platforms is still freedom of speech in action. Freedom of Speech primarily exists to protect thw press and just means you can’t be jailed for what you say or have works of artistic or authorial merit censored by government.

      Meanwhile we have people fighting to ban books from federal and state institutions. Teachers being fired for daring to use student nicknames and identifiers…

      People crow “freedom of speech!” but too often they are spoiled, self important narcissistic children who just want to use some kind of schoolyard cootie shot nonsense to avoid anyone calling them on their shit. They don’t give a damn otherwise as long as they get to be comfortable and unchallenged and they are too often more than happy to attack the freedom of speech itself because they can’t handle seeing anyone else given access to it.

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        Being shunned

        Is the comic talking about “shunning” intolerance? Seems more like asking for government force behind intolerating intolerance

        Having social reprocussions

        Your job in an insanely corporate America can hardly be considered “social”. Corporate America is akin to a second government that just profits from both sides

        Freedom of speech the law only had to protect against the government when written, not corporations as government-proxies. Freedom of speech the idea extends beyond government (companies aren’t people)

        Meanwhile we have people fighting to ban

        My comment covers that as well

        but too often they are spoiled

        it’s a cicle

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          Corporations as government proxies have existed for hundreds of not thousands of years. Ever hear of the East India Trading Company? To claim that the law had nothing to do with companies holding that level of power is ridiculous.

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        Freedom of Speech primarily exists to protect thw press

        Freedom of Press is a whole separate thing. Freedom of Speech is about public discourse in general, not just speech by members of the press.

        Apart from that, however, you’re on the right track.