• SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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    I read at least the first two das kapitals in my upper secondary years (maybe the third too but can’t recall tbh). Reckon that’d be pretty basic introductory baby’s first taste of trash political ideologies.

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      Cool, what were the biggest problems you’ve found with them, and did you read later marxist critiques of those problems?

      As a marxist leninist, I know those books have plenty of flaws, so I’m curious about which ones stood out to you.

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        Imma level down with you, I have no fucking recollection it was almost 20 years ago. I am leftist, and have been, but after reading through that I came to the conclusion that I am not a fucking looney and started living a life of a normal person.

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            Yep. But to be fair, most theories get thrown in the bin after multiple failed trials. Fascism was tried at a couple places but after Oppenheiming and explaining to certain Austrian painter how and why that theory is trash, it’s stayed at it’s rightful place as a fringe ideology for attention seekers and lunatics. Why communism is still a valid theory after multiple failed irl trials and genocides inherently linked to the theory, is beyond me. But I view communism as more of a cult than a real political ideology anyway.

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              Capitalism has a higher failure and genocide rate than communism, whether that capitalism is regular or fascist flavored.

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                There are 0 commie nations that aren’t miserable shitholes. History knows no commie nation that wasn’t a miserable shithole. The ones that have at least some post-60s technologies are the ones that used capitalist markets to get hold of them.

                Personally I’m doing well in my nordic welfare state, bang on capitalism with literally 0 downsides. I honestly don’t really care what some slightly obese guy who doesn’t know how to groom himself thinks about the theory of it, shit works in practice and that’s what I care about. Also NATO is fucking awesome, guns and shit, it’s cool.

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                  The ones that have at least some post-60s technologies are the ones that used capitalist markets to get hold of them

                  Famously the US has hypersonic missiles, unlike communist shithole China.

                  honestly don’t really care what some slightly obese guy who doesn’t know how to groom himself

                  Literally a woman who could probably kick your ass lmao

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                    I bet the people starving in Cuba would love a hypersonic meme, or some other wunderwaffe that’ll surely make the evil americans bend their knee.

                    And then we have a commie whose argument against reality is - let’s see - violence. How surprising, I’ve never seen this turn of events from commies before in history. Truly a first, not foreseen by the extensive research into theory (instead of reality).