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    ChatGPT is hilariously incompetent… but on a serious note, I still firmly reject tools like copilot outside demos and the like because they drastically reduce code quality for short term acceleration. That’s a terrible trade-off in terms of cost.

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      I enjoy using copilot, but it is not made to think for you. It’s a better autocomplete, but don’t ever let it do more than a line at once.

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      they drastically reduce code quality for short term acceleration.

      Oh boy do I have news for you, that’s basically the only thing middle managers care about, short tem acceleration

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      But LinkedIn bros and corporate people are gonna gobble it up anyways because it has the right buzzwords (including “AI”) and they can squeeze more (low quality) work from devs to brag about how many things they (the corporate owners) are doing.

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        It’s just a fad. There’s just a small bit that will stay after the hype is gone. You know, like blockchain, AR, metaverse, NFT and whatever it was before that. In a few years there will be another breakthrough with it and we’ll hear from it again for a short while, but for now it’s just a one trick pony.

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      I’m an elite hacker and I grabbed your IP address from this post. It’s 192.168.0.1 just so you know I’m not bluffing.

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        Heheh I’m ddossing them right now. Unfortunately the computer I’m doing it on is having a few connection issues

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    I predict that, within the year, AI will be doing 100% of the development work that isn’t total and utter bullshit pain-in-the-ass complexity, layered on obfuscations, composed of needlessly complex bullshit.

    That’s right, within a year, AI will be doing .001% of programming tasks.

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        Legitimately could be a use case

        “Attend this meeting for me. If anyone asks, claim that your camera and microphone aren’t working. After the meeting, condense the important information into one paragraph and email it to me.”

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          Here is a summary of the most important information from that meeting. Since there were two major topics, I’ve separated them into two paragraphs.

          1. It is a good morning today.
          2. Everyone is thanked for their time. Richard is looking forward to next week’s meeting.

          The rest of the information was deemed irrelevant to you and your position.

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    The only thing ChatGPT etc. is useful for, in every language, is to get ideas on how to solve a problem, in an area you don’t know anything about.

    ChatGPT, how can I do xy in C++?
    You can use the library ab, like …

    That’s where I usually search for the library and check the docs if it’s actually possible to do it this way. And often, it’s not.

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      Yeah, it’s amazing at showing you the idiomatic way to do really specific, narrow-scoped things in a language you’re not familiar with… except for when it’s wrong.

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      User claims to have made a website using chatgpt, putting programmers out of their jobs. However, it’s revealed user knows next to nothing about making that website accessible for others, as revealed from the last line. User sent a local link (that works for their own computer only) to their friend (which naturally shouldn’t work).

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    Engineering is about trust. In all other and generally more formalized engineering disciplines, the actual job of an engineer is to provide confidence that something works. Software engineering may employ fewer people because the tools are better and make people much more productive, but until everyone else trusts the computer more, the job will exist.

    If the world trusts AI over engineers then the fact that you don’t have a job will be moot.

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      People don’t have anywhere near enough knowledge of how things work to make their choices based on trust. People aren’t getting on the subway because they trust the engineers did a good job; they’re doing it because it’s what they can afford and they need to get to work.

      Similarly, people aren’t using Reddit or Adobe or choosing their cars firmware based on trust. People choose what is affordable and convenient.

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        What’s being discussed here is the hiring of engineers rather than consumer choices. Hiring an engineer is absolutely an expression of trust. The business trusts that the engineer will be able to concretely realize abstract business goals, and that they will be able to troubleshoot any deviations.

        AI writing code is one thing, but intuitively trusting that an AI will figure out what you want for you and keep things running is a long way off.

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        In civil engineering public works are certified by an engineer; its literally them saying if this fails i am at fault. The public is trusting the engineer to say its safe.