• BedbugCutlefish@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Its almost entirely made from plants

    And like, even if it was dinosaurs, Dirt is also (partially) made from decayed animals. And, oversimplifying, that dirt becomes plants.

    And that’s all fine for vegans, because it doesn’t involve exploitation of animals. Like, if you needed to raise and kill animals to use their corpses to grow plants, that’d be animal exploitation.

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      you are most definitely exploiting animals in the scenario you described. do you think i need to build a water table in order to exploit it for a well?

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          1 year ago

          i didn’t say it’s abuse. i said it’s exploitation. everyone opposes abuse. exploitation is not inherently abusive.

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              1 year ago

              food, protection from predators, protection from the elemnts, and veterinary care is not abusive. i would describe it as “symbiotic”.

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                1 year ago

                You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan? I wont even start about the living conditions most animals are in. For sea animals also nothing of your arguments holds true and we kill a fuckton of those.

                You know its one thing to contribute to suffering because change is hard. Pretending this is something symbiotic is ridicoulus though.

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                  1 year ago

                  You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan?

                  i have yet to find proof that nonhuman animals understand personal mortality, so they wouldn’t even be able to understand the choice you are presenting.

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                  1 year ago

                  Pretending this is something symbiotic is ridicoulus though.

                  this is literally an appeal to ridicule, not a refutation.

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                  1 year ago

                  You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan?

                  i don’t know of any animal killed at 1/10 of their lifespan.

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      1 year ago

      “bio diesel” contains animal fat, 1 million tons each year in the EU alone.