I was reading about Dungeon Meshi and Kuro, the “kobold”.
Kobolds are usually depicted as canine humanoids in Japanese media compared to the more reptilian humanoids that kobolds are depicted as in western media[4] such as Dungeons and Dragons. The reason for this is credited as either a mistranslation of the first Dungeons and Dragons Monster Manual[5] or because of the lack of reference art in said Monster Manual, but a picture of a jackalwere being present on the opposite page[6], which was then used as reference art for the anime, The Record of the Lodoss War. That anime is credited for solidifying the trope of canine kobolds in Japanese media.
From https://delicious-in-dungeon.fandom.com/wiki/Kobolds#cite_note-5
And the supporting youtube video https://m.youtube.com/shorts/rUntTZ6spOc
Bonus fact: piglike orcs.
It’s not a mistranslation that caused it, kobolds were both described and illustrated as doglike until 3rd Edition where with no explanation they simply changed it and decided they were lizard like/draconic.
I do think the new version of kobolds is an interesting creature, but truthfully they should’ve just come up with a new name for this new creature instead of just completely changing the kobold.
Found a really good source including a picture of the first edition. It looks like that they were mentioned indeed in the 2nd edition to be more dog like in a sense of voice “yappin like a dog” and smelling like damp dog. Their visuals however were not really dog like. So I assume it was maybe both a mistranlation and an over interpretation of some texts from 2nd edition or just pure free choice from the author of this anime. https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2022/01/dd-monster-spotlight-kobolds.html
Their visuals however were not really dog like.
The kobold in the 1st edition illustration in the article you linked has a distinctly dog-like muzzle. Other related media, such as Stone Soup, also depict or describe them as “dog-like”.
I guess with some imagination you could say the muzzle does indeed look dog like but the rest? I mean even if you morph some reptiles into humans you’d get such kind of muzzle. It’s not really that “distict” imo, but I get why some would say otherwise.
“Kobolds were first described as hairless humanoids with small horns by Gygax in the Monster Manual (1977)”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobold_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)?wprov=sfla1
That first edition version looks like a dog’s head with horns and pointy ears to me at least, and that’s kinda what I was referring to.
Admittedly the 2nd edition version looks a bit less doglike, but I still see similarities with some breeds.
Fahhhhk, thank you.
I swear I remembered dog people from 2nd edition and was super confused when I started playing DDO and they were some kind of dragonkin. Then people who started with 3rd were telling me kobolds had always been lizards.
Somewhere my old 2nd edition books are still around in a box, but damned if I know where.
Yeah. I’ve never really been sure what a Kobold was. My friend had an older monster manual that showed it as a chubby beady eyed goblin, while mine had a little rat man, and then I get back into the game a few decades later, and kobolds are now little dragons.
In the old D&D fluff, kobolds are described as having “dog like faces”. They became lizard and then dragon people later, so I guess you could say that both versions of kobold are equally divergent from the original concept.
I’m still fighting the good fight of keeping Kobolds as they originally were in Germanic fairy tales: weird little guys spiritually bound to a house or ship.
Til I’m a kobold
Weird little fish guys? Are the ones bound to houses different looking?
If you expect a consistent appearance from fairy tale creatures I am sorry to disappoint you. They’re just weird, little, solitary creatures.
Hm. The source for this is a vtubers YouTube short?
The most reliable source there is
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/コボルト seems to have a bit of a different approach stating that D&D 3rd ed. changed them to be more reptilian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobold actually seems to corroborate this. I played D&D since the end of the 1st ed. days and I think of them as kinda dog-like heads that were also scaly. I have a 2nd ed. Monstrous Manual, but it’s on the other side of the world at the moment so I can’t check.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Kobold
https://adnd2e.fandom.com/wiki/Kobold_(Creature)
I’m not buying the OP here.
My only real experience with them is from Pool of Radiance, the first “gold box” CRPG. They were pretty dog-like in that.
I always saw kobolds as ‘slightly redder than normal goblins’ in old grindy korean MMOs
Huh, TIL Kobold is lizard people in D&D. My knowledge of kobold is first via Ragnarok Online, it’s a game by South Korean company and it’s depict it as dog-people. Since then i didn’t see it depict as anything else.
Ragnarok Online 🤩
I met my now wife in that game.
