Dyskolos

Testing your obedience and submission. I’d just get up and leave. If they don’t treat you with respect before you even work there, you can imagine the rest.

If that scarred you for life, you had a wonderfully harmless life 😉

“Identify as insane”…is a sentence i gotta re-use :-) Well, what actually is “politically mad” though. Everything not in the usual two corners fighting “the others”?

lol, i actually started this conversation on the assumption that you are either a troll or totally gone. And yup, it’s indeed easier if the other one already knows you’re insane in the mainframe. Saves a lot of time :-)

Interesting fun fact. But hey, have you ever tried putting your powers of imagination into art? like creating some?

Oh I wouldn’t say “fantasy” is negatively connotated. “Delusion”, unless used in a medical diagnosis, surely is, yes. Apologies btw for using that term on you. I tend to come across harsher than I often intend to :)

What we’re doing here is using our culture as the raw materials to engineer new social constructs to serve our needs[…]

How eloquently put. Makes total sense now. Definitely nothing I regularly come across, but you explained it very well. Thanks for that insight. If everyone is happy and no harm is done, no harm is done :) Circling back to the initial use of the word “sanity”, you came across as being high as a kite, but you’re just…differently wired. Nothing insane here. I wish you guys the best!

No irony was meant. Sorry it that might’ve come across as such. I’m a very cynical person. Didn’t mean any disrespect. I would TRY my best to treat it however it wants to be treated. But lacking information, i could only approximate very little. I would maybe have trouble wrapping my head around that fact and try to see if it would require “help” or if everything is fine as it is. Or maybe misanthropy went weird or…

But if you just changed your belief that sharks can talk. It’s also no shark anymore, is it? We have language and words to convey certain things and meanings. If you just change it, what use does it have? A speaking shark is no shark, a human being sharky isn’t a human. So do you more see something NEW? Like sharkman? humark? A speaking shark that can travel on land and use the internet to meet humans like you. But neither shark nor human.

Why is it important to you to call this “antirealist magick” instead of e.g. “highly vivid fantasy born by the desire to treat everyone as they see themselves, no matter what”? It’s an admirable treat, don’t get me wrong. Maybe I’m just nitpicky on labels, but “antirealist” sounds dumb (no offense meant) in a world where objective reality needs to exist or else this conversation wouldn’t exist.

Anyhow, you seem like a very lovely colorful being, so i just repeat myself: no offense meant, just call it scientific curiosity to everything not “normal” and boring.

You’re evidently on the far right end of open-mindedness. That’s cool. In a stupid world like this even more so.

Of course I wouldn’t want it to be sad. Yet I would have tons of questions that only the “objective reality”-ivy could answer. I mean, it’s pretty obvious it’s no shark but a human that sees itself as a shark. But also as a human, or else it would’ve drowned already trying to get to its kin. And not found their way to you. Or even you online.

Don’t get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem with whatever someone identifies as. Due to my voluntary work, I got some friends with DIS, so i, too, had my encounters with “subjective reality”, even in the form of a protective wolf.

But, I also see the underlying issue. Dysphoria is not a healthy thing and rarely leads to a fulfilled and happy life. (Not saying DIS is the same, but symptoms overlap). A body-dyphoria where you can’t stand the existence of your left leg can be “cured” by just removing it. Gender-dysphoria can be helped with hormones. But species? That sure can only end up highly depressed.

Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t treat that person with respect or not take her otherkin not serious. But there are limits. How do I respectfully treat a shark? Put it in a watery cage to be safe and throw it into the ocean? Probably not. The moment I talk with it, I already don’t take it serious, do I?

BTW, I would prefer to not be human too. This species is the worst. And I also would prefer to be a Disney princess where birds land on my arms and talk to me. But I am human and no princess, and birds fly away. What good would it do me if I just started to believe I am what I would prefer to be? (Supposing I could)

Well, why should I do that? And why would i? What benefit was gained for the monkeyman or me? Though I would be amazed by my fantasy if I could actually pull that off.

Do you do that? And, haven’t not yet met or even heard of someone identifying as a monkey (or anything else nonhuman), I would have a lot of questions. And I mean actually identifying as such, not just larping as a furry or doing it as some kind of kink.

Anyhow, it would still not really make a strong point as to being “anti reality”. First, you knew before you’d hypnotize yourself, it is objectively a human. As a monkey couldn’t even tell you it is one. It just is. I would classify that as an incredible Fantasy (not meant in a condescending way!) But not an opposition to reality. A wide opened mind with a fantastic imagination. That.

That does have nothing much to do with reality. I have no problems with trans-people or even otherkins (which i never met btw). Of course not all our hardware works 100% identical, but that doesn’t change reality of the hardware being mostly the same :-) I really fail to see your connection between being open-minded towards others and being “antirealist”. The trans-brain isn’t different from any one else’s. The gender-dysphoria in it is. Still has no influence on respect. At least it SHOULD not have.

A lot of fancy words to say…nothing. Of course we’re bound by our limited senses. Yet your subjective reality is the same as mine and everyone else’s. Otherwise there’d be no internet where you could say such things. And if we all perceive the same subjective reality, it kinda is our species’ objective reality. Everything beyond that is great for a philosophical discussion that ultimately leads to nowhere :)

the one objective universe is already big enough to fill everyone’s identities AND everything else. That’s why we call it the universe :-)

If there’d be no objective truth we can ALL see, experience and share, you’d not be sitting at a computer now and chat with me. The existence of a reality outside your wishes doesn’t mean there’s a correlation between racism (and all the other evils you mentioned and more) and reality. Also it’s no matter of “belief”. It just is. It is beyond my judgement and beyond my control. Yet i’m neither a racist, nor an ablist or whichever -ism you want. And i also despise religion and capitalism. Why should any of those things be objective or subjective? we define them, as a society, and be done with it. We all know what capitalism is.

I feel like you’re just trolling, but fine. Realism is seeing everything as it is, not as one wants it to be. So that makes you kinda contradict yourself. Realism can’t be oppressive. A fantasy is oppresive to reality as it draws sharp borders. Sonic is a fantasy, but that fantasy is real. In this context, in this box it is made to reside in.

Insane is nothing inherently bad though. But ignoring reality and choosing fantasy sure can’t be healthy. At least not in the long run.

Belief is silly, but harmless. It’s like a wiener. Nice to have one as long as you don’t start slinging it in other people’s faces. The harm is only done to oneself.

Religion though is the worst. I despise it and everyone fallen for it. It is just a means to control the dimwitted and weak. And it drags this world back into the dumb ages.

Like Voltaire said: “Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities”.

The drugs that made you go spiritually nuts. How would any sane mind come up with all those fantasy stories and BELIEVE them to be true? We call those delusions.

But anyhow, seems like you’re already too deep into it to just take a step backwards and look at the box you’ve made yourself to sit in.

It matters coz how could I ever take a wife-beating racist serious in whatever he preaches or says?

Noone is perfect, but you also don’t need to be a hero to not be a racist moron beating your wife. Seriously? If that’s already a hero the world is broken.

I dunno who said it, but to quote freely: “the best index to a person’s character is how he treats those that can’t fight back and offer no benefit”

If ghandi (or anyone else) beats his wife and is a racist, that’s all I need to know about what person he is.

I’m getting tired of all those (and others) worst comics I’ve ever seen. Wouldn’t have thought Lemmy got so many 12yr olds with the desire to share their incredibly dumb AND unfunny brain farts. But here we are…

I never thought anyone needing an editor would use such devices for it. But OK, that makes total sense for those.

Weird terminals but ok. I actually even like vim

It (well, vi, which vim is a clone of) has been designed to be a possible interface on a keyboard that doesn’t have arrow keys or other modifier keys than shift.

That sounds great and all, but in the last 40yrs I have not owned (or seen…) A keyboard like that. For whom the heck was this useful? 😁

Not mocking, I do use vim or nano, but also never got why it had to be so incredibly unintuitive.

Sounds lovely. Humans are such beautiful creatures.