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  • Again their effort might look different, which means yeah if that kid has dyscalculia and a calculator helps, then yeah that is no problem. However, dyscalulia is also just… weird. Its highly different in different students and iirc it does tend to go away eventually. Effort is important in that, but so is being understanding of how tiring dealing with it can be, so breaks in that increased effort for that student (be it calculator or other tools or just literal breaks) is important. And my point with the snark on writing being: Of course you can find issue with any general statement if you just decide to throw something hyper specific into it, yes of course there are always exceptions, but those can be dealt with on an individual as needed basis.

    My problem is not with calculators. Its with refusing to put in effort to learning something because you’ve decided something could do that for you and so there is zero reason to learn anything at all. However, even for those who struggle, a calculator takes you out of the problem, often multiple times per problem, and makes re-entering that problem, remembering where you were, what you were doing, and how you were doing it harder for many with disabilities as well. The goal of effort in not using calculators is to keep you inside the problem, so you don’t break your chain of thought and can more easily finish the entire problem. Obviously, that takes time as at the start it will actually take you out of the problem longer as you have to do those in your head, but as you get used to it that helps build the mental connections needed.





  • No you are talking about using a tool to help/supplement your learning. That is good.

    I am responding to people saying they should never learn anything in the first place because a calculator could do it for them.

    There ARE some things (like in stats) that you will just use a calculator for because it’s a HUGE waste of time otherwise (like Standard Deviation especially), but refusing to put in effort on things like multiplication, which will get used like 5 times in one problem, means you are taking yourself out of the problem 5 different times to use something else. For the ADHD kid there’s no way your focus is staying on that problem if you have to go elsewhere (especially to a phone which has infinite distractions) 5 different times.

    Then when we need to use the actual concept to do something else, like factoring, those who actually learned and know the patterns will be able to solve the puzzle almost instantly. What multiplies to 64 and adds to 16 SHOULD be an easy 8 and 8, but on a calculator you’re doing 64/1=64 1+64≠16, 64/2=32 2+32≠16, 64/3 has a decimal so no, 64/4=16 4+16≠16, etc until you find the answer that works. (Which is fine, if you need to, and generally how I will START teaching it, but again the reason for doing it using the brain is so you learn those patterns and can then not have to remove yourself from the problem but actively engage in the problem by trying to use the patterns or things you’ve learned)


  • To be honest not using a calculator is so I don’t have to wait a minute for you to get out your phone, find the app, type It in, realize you typed it wrong, and then finally type it right just to do 4x5.

    Like do you HAVE to be able to do this in your head? No, but it’ll make everything else we have to do a LOT less fucking annoying if you put in any effort because otherwise every step of everything you are going to do will be go to this thing and ask it what this is.

    And most of math is mostly “can you learn something you might not enjoy and then use it to do other shit that takes longer than 10 seconds?” Most things aren’t particularly individually important. Idc if you remember the area of a triangle when you’re 45 but if you can’t learn something as easy as multiple the two numbers and divide by two and be able to use that then you’re gonna have bigger issues when you have to do literally anything.













  • TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.ziptoMemes@lemmy.mlJerkoff
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    No, the DNC is why we have trump. It’s on them.

    Obama wasn’t perfect at all, but his platform was at least change and progress. While he was originally against gay marriage he did listen to the public and change for re-election. If the DNC listened to the public instead of fighting against progress that would be great. But like… Biden was the throw away to conservatives for Obama’s VP to “balance out” Obama being progressive….And now he was their best idea on what to do for a better future? It’s pathetic, and demonstrates the above.

    No one is trying to say Biden was worse than trump. They’re saying the DNC is what even allowed trump to exist, by being greedy fucks who care more about their handlers than the American people and running the worst candidates they can. “Nothing will fundamentally change” is the dumbest, most “fuck you don’t bother to vote for me” fucking campaign I’ve ever heard.