• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    Is it really that soulcrushing? The system itself isn’t problematic, its our stupid primal brains and intellectual lessers who vote against their own interests and refuse to join peaceful organizations to acquire pay raises, breaks, sick leave, etc.

    It could all work but we’re our own worst enemies.

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      Publicly traded corporations are the system that is the most problematic. they comprise the entirety of the stock market and the majority of the economy.

      The fact that some guy running a hedge fund out of some economic center in a major city elects a c-suite who will actively harm people in any given locality America by dumping pollutants, tying up water rights, raising prices without a corresponding cost for production, or whatever other unethical business practice you want to fill the blank in with, just because it marginally increases profits is the problem. That hedge fund manager is actually required to do that or he will be fired, sued, or held criminally liable.

      Greed is the primary motivating factor in this country and it is killing us.

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        87% of US companies who make more than $100M revenue (not net, gross) are private according to Advisorpedia.

        But yes, ending Citizens United and enforcing maximum political donations would be a huge step forward and fix so many problems.

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          That says nothing about the amount of money passing through public companies.

          Political donations suck, but the real issue is the absolute fiduciary duty of company runners.

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                Kind of weird that I should even be bothered to ask at this point, but…

                Alright, ignoring the number of employed workers and other economic indicators like actual product, whats your statistics on money/capital of private vs public firms?

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      It’s like the last election. We are all talking about 100 different things that all matter tangentially but couldn’t focus on the one thing that would probably solve a lot of it.

      Americans want financial independence. No one wants to tackle that issue head on, though. They will skirt around it saying, if we had this or that social program but won’t ever commit to making it their platform.

      Think of all the children being bullied that could be counseled if parents had time away from work to counsel them. Think of all the children getting pregnant that could be taught about safe sex and responsible relationships if parents had time away from work to parent them. Think of the long term health effects of being constantly stressed about work. Think of all the communities you could build if people had time away from work to build them.

      Financial freedom = actual freedom. The GOP and DNC both want you to be wage slaves so that they can place themselves at the top of the hierarchy creating the problems you want them to fix.

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        Oh look, Mr. Both Sides is here to ignore that GOP keeps giving tax breaks for the rich and raising them for everyone else, here to ignore that Kamala Harris promised all kinds of tax reforms like unrealized gains tax for people with more than 1M USD in holdings, return of child tax credits, return of student tax credits, and forgiveness of student loans, and here to ignore that the DNC wants to end Citizens United and make unfair election maps illegal.

        Fuck off, Mr. Both sides. You’re who I was referring to as our intellectual lessers.

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          This is absolute bullshit. The DNC made zero effort to address the finical instability of working class people and you’re perpetuating a lie. I was told 100x that the biden economy was a successful economy while inflation wreaked havoc. This was in 2021, 2022, 2023. Was it bidens fault? No. At the same time don’t lie to my face and tell me I should be grateful for this economic environment. Shit could have been worse but tell me you recognize it is bad and give me a platform to believe in.

          The DNC won’t, they rely just as much as the GOP, on the economy only serving their needs.

          Don’t make me pull out the fucking graph of popular policy passed vs policy passed that benefits the wealthy.

          TL:DR you’re full of shit.

          Edit:

          https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba

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      “The system isn’t bad, it’s just that the natural reactions of everyone in the system are wrong”

      Yeah, that is a sign of a bad system. If it only works for 1% of the people in it, you can’t say it is generally a good system.

      A good and robust system would deal with the bumpy parts of life. Including human stupidity and our ability to easily fall for propaganda.

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        The natural reactions of everyone to everything are bad. Greed is a primary motivating factor for all humans, period.

        Thats why we created a system. You’re not going to get to your idea of a good system by tearing the current one down, ever.

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          The natural reactions of everyone to everything are bad

          All of them? Some of them? How much humanity will be left if we get rid of everything that doesn’t fit into the system?

          You’re not going to get to your idea of a good system by tearing the current one down, ever.

          I never implied I was intending to tear down the system. Well as long as it remains democratic anyways. A system that can’t change has a shelf life one way or another.

          All I implied is that the current system isn’t good. Not that small changes couldn’t make it better.

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            My message was about reforming the system and your response was

            “The system isn’t bad, it’s just that the natural reactions of everyone in the system are wrong”

            It’s hard to see that as anything but advocacy of tearing down the system, which is something far too many people unironically believe.

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              You: “I smell great!”

              Me: “I think you smell bad”

              You: “You think an aspect of me is bad, this must mean you think everything about me is bad. You must hate me the most”

              Me: “No… you just need to take a shower.”

              You: “I can’t see how telling me that I am smelly doesn’t mean you hate me.”

              I don’t what to tell you, it’s not that hard to get.

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                Me: “The system needs a shower.”

                You: “This entire system is bad.”

                Me: “You’re an idiot to think the system is unshowerable.”

                You: “I was the first person to suggest a shower!”

                You’re a fucking loon, mate.