And no, the 6.134258 shares of Apple in your 401K don’t make you an owner, lol.

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    I kinda disagree with this a little. These things are interconnected. While we shouldn’t let stuff like race and sexuality divide us, we shouldn’t ignore that some groups have been fucked over more than others and part of dismantling the system is seeing what parts are rotten. Red lining n shit.

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      I’m not saying to ignore them, I’m saying we have a common enemy using those differences to exploit and murder us by amplifying every division except owners vs workers using for profit media and captured government, encouraging us to fight one another over them so they can do so.

      Note the absolutely confused and terrified tone the for profit media is going through right now when they’re perfectly fine when 10 kids get gunned down. That’s just another wedge for division, gun control, for them to stoke as no one that mattered, to them, died.

      Im saying that until we pause and dethrone the owners, they will see to it those secondary divisions remain entrenched and heated to keep us weak, and therefore they are the primary threat that must be the priority to solve literally any of our great national blights.

      We cannot begin to heal… Any division… Until the instigators that keep stoking them for private profit are defeated and made subject to society, government, and regulation again instead of controlling them.

      Reigning in our sociopathic, murderous late stage capitalism is step 0 to any positive change. They are the gatekeepers. Or get comfy with everything continuing to decline until collapse. It’s hell now. It will get so much worse with them running government and controlling mass media.

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        I’ve seen some pretty compelling arguments from minority groups that step 0 can’t be done without simultaneously addressing the divisions you’re talking about. I don’t see why we can’t do both. I agree that these things are used and usually ultimately come from capitalism, but I think that recognizing and fixing those divisions is an integral part of dismantling capitalism.

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          Again, capitalism amplifies these divisions with the bully pulpits ONLY THE CAPITALISTS CONTROL through government and profit media.

          You can’t have any movement they don’t inform and can’t kill entirely if they wish, because they own the signal, and a few techies on distributed social media doesn’t change that.

          But nothing will change, because there are too many people that refuse to acknowledge that, that think their cause is more important and must take priority when the class war either created or exacerbates their oppression, effects more people, almost everyone, and while identify affirmation is a nice and in a decent society important thing, material needs, food, water, shelter for ALL are objectively a higher priority than telling 10% of the population for any subgroup “I see you, your identity is valid.” I’m all for that. But this is a literal war where people are being murdered, and a cause parade for any cause other than stop murdering/exploiting our very lives for profit us has no place in a war for the vast majority of the population’s survival.

          And it’s ridiculous when people say “we can do both” no we can’t. We can’t do anything. We’ve been in a steady downward spiral for 60 years as income inequity has grown. We can’t do anything under this economy. Not one god damned lasting thing. That is by oligarch design.

          But we won’t as a society unite and forcefully remove that common enemy because someone else has to have their symptom addressed before. Climate change will do what we should have in a few decades, force the permanent collapse of this inhuman economy, but it’ll hardly matter then, and nothing equitable will take it’s place.

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            Bruv it might be time to take a break from the Internet for a bit and focus up on your personal life, this seems like real hardcore bad world syndrome and, while I feel you, I really do, this comment sounds like your mental health is in a bad place and you might want to take a break.