• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    The only divide is class divide.

    Every time I see people say this, all I can think is that they’ve never had someone get in their face and hate them for existing as part of a group of people.

    Because there is literally a divide between bigots and non-bigots. There are plenty of dirt-poor bigots out there and “they aren’t your real enemy” is not going to convince them.

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      It’s a little chicken and egg, I think. Racist ideas were used to justify slavery, but it’s also possible that racist ideas played into the beginning of enslavement of Africans as well.

      These days, I think it’s just a matter of people become bigoted through largely osmosis, and the conservative mindset is fertile ground for bigoted messaging. Political and economic elites, then, focus on culture war bullshit because it works as an effective smokescreen to prevent the news from focusing on billionaires’ (effectively) war crimes.

      Big ol feedback loop of bigotry, unfortunately.

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      As someone that says ‘no war but class war’ let me clarify…yes there are clearly other divides. They are distracting us to keep us divided. Many times the bigot and non-bigot ven diagrams are 2 circle on top of each other, but it’s still based in class warfare.

      Rich white went and got poor black slaves because it was cheaper than paying the local poor for work. Then the local poor hate the newly migrated people of color. It was slaves, but moved to employing underage kids for foreign countries. Either way it is still a class divide.

      The rich use the media to keep us (working class) mad at each other and blame each other for taking our jobs. The truth is the owner class stole our wealth and sold it back to us for money. We were too distracted with lies about honest work to realize the truth in time. Some of this stuff happens in cycle and they wouldn’t notice for themselves. They get stuck buying way too much because it’s too easy and they don’t realize until they own more stuff than they need.

      I know not everyone on ‘my side’ will agree with me and there are blind spots for me. I’m American, globally my quality of life is awesome and it’s on the backs of child slaves that I’m too disconnected with to feel guilty about. If you are an American and feel a certain way about your cell phone and chocolate, just know it’s not magic. A bad system that we can make better is currently in place. We take for granted because bad people employing child labor because it is cheap.

      We are still on the same side even if we don’t know it. I believe it was Warren Buffet that said

      There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.

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      The saying isn’t trying to claim those people don’t exist, of course they do. The saying is a declaration of the truth. The truth that those people are fucking wrong and dumb for their bigoted beliefs. Because our only enemy is the .01% at the top.

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        Your only enemy is the .01% at the top.

        A lot of us have a second enemy- the bigots that want us dead. You can call them wrong and dumb for their beliefs, but they would still rather shoot me and people I love in the head than a CEO.

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          OMG I know. When I say our I mean all of the middle and lower classes which includes them stop rehashing

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            This is what you said:

            The saying is a declaration of the truth. The truth that those people are fucking wrong and dumb for their bigoted beliefs. Because our only enemy is the .01% at the top.

            Those fucking wrong and dumb people are my enemy because they want me and people I care about dead much more than any CEO. It’s that simple. You want me to team up with a Nazi to fight the people at the top. I’m telling you they’re both my enemies. Fascism does not know economic class.