• FooBarrington@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      No, I think I understand it well enough to also understand that the system isn’t perfect.

      For example, the same system that is trying to get him charged is also responsible for producing the jury pool. Coincidentally, the same system regularly buys data about its citizens from big tech companies, like social media. The same social media on which plenty of people publicly commented on the case.

      Unless the defense is literally involved in every step of the process (starting from voter registration), there’s no way to be sure that the jury pool is actually unbiased.

      Now, hopefully I’m wrong about this, and you can show me specifically how we can be absolutely sure that the jury pool is completely unbiased. But I don’t think that you’ll be able to do so without implicitly relying on the same system that is being defended against.

      • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        None of these systems interact in an easy enough way to rig this without involving soo many people. Which means it won’t be secret enough to get away with.

        • FooBarrington@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          Please be more specific. Roughly how many people do you expect would, at the very least, have to be involved?

          I’d say you could get away with ~10 people (say 2 responsible along the actual process of producing/transporting the jury pool data, and 4x as many people that could randomly check). That’s not counting the planning etc. which I think if fair to leave out (as plenty of bad shit has been planned by governments around the world without the planners revealing it).

          And I think there are very realistic ways to make sure 10 (or even 20) people shut up - you can always pay well enough while also threatening their loved ones in case anything gets out.

          If you assume the number is higher, please show me where the process is documented. Again, I’d love to be wrong, but “trust me bro” isn’t enough. If you want a specific part of the process to focus on, I assume there’s a bottleneck in the transport & verification. So let’s say the data is swapped “in transport” (so e.g. if physically moved it’s changed on the storage medium itself, or if it’s digitally transported it’s changed through MITM/modified receiving side). How many people audit the systems involved, and how many people from either side actually verify the data?