Probably not a good title to seek upvotes. If it does get upvotes, more programmers get share in your pain 😅

  • sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    8·
    14 days ago

    I have this great idea for an app, we can go 70/30 on it! 70 for me because the idea is the hardest part after all. So basically it’s Twitter plus Facebook plus Tinder with a built in MMO. You can get that done in a couple weeks, should be pretty easy right?

  • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
    6·
    13 days ago

    I work as an embedded developer and when a new board is produced and half tested, every one expects fully functional code off the bat, right away.

    Motherfucker, you didn’t even qualify your hardware and you expect my code, that hasn’t hit the new board, to be 100% functional, based on your mind map? We will find hardware issues that will inevitably be blamed on the code and spend hours “debugging” the code to eventually find out the hardware is shit.

  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
    5·
    14 days ago

    Figure out if they prefer spaces or tabs, insist on the other.

    Please note this won’t work on Pythonistas as they’ve already had their spirit thoroughly broken.

      • brian@programming.dev
        2·
        13 days ago

        most things seem to have settled on this, but tabs are so much better for accessibility. programmers with bad vision can have trouble differentiating smaller indentation levels, while some of them just bump the font size up so high that 4 spaces takes up too much screen space. each one can set a tab width that is comfortable for them. https://alexandersandberg.com/articles/default-to-tabs-instead-of-spaces-for-an-accessible-first-environment/ has some good arguments

        with a forced formatter and a configured editor there really isn’t any argument for spaces

        • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 days ago

          I remember people arguing over 2 vs 3 spaces, back when terminals only displayed 80 characters and every character width saved was a huge deal. (Oh god, memories of all the single-character variable names have returned to haunt me)

          I can’t go back, won’t go back. I am so glad the Bad Old Days are over. *returns to coding on my dual-widescreen monitor setup*

      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        13 days ago

        Hard tabs are much better as someone who works with an age diverse team where vision issues are a serious issue. Four space tabs are optimal for you but there are other lived experiences.

    • untorquer@lemmy.world
      0·
      13 days ago

      I’ve only ever heard raging between the two, but never why. I’m guessing there were competing languages with different standards, or maybe historic hardware limiting input sets that kicked this debate off or?

      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
        0·
        12 days ago

        A few languages force a decision (usually towards tabs), but otherwise it’s just a question of aesthetics vs. accessibility.

        • untorquer@lemmy.world
          2·
          12 days ago

          I see.

          My worst experience was with spaces in code from an engineering professor who used a non-monospace typefont. Sadist. Though it was comic sans, they were probably just dyslexic. Despite the class focusing on numerical methods, we had to hand write Matlab code on paper using proper syntax. I have no clue why. Never learned much numerical method, nor were we ever allowed to use Matlab except on a few “projects” during the term. I found out about the spaces when i had to debug his example code he gave as solutions(which we were graded against). I saw errors and had to confirm i wasn’t losing my mind. …I wasn’t. Anyways there was a mix of spaces and tabs to align the comic sans.

          TLDR: I couldn’t care less. Just don’t code in word, and use a monospace font.

    • ramble81@lemm.ee
      0·
      13 days ago

      That’s right there with calling JS, PowerShell and Bash “programming languages”. I said what I said.

      Edit: I’m a developer myself and it looks like I triggered everyone just as the post said. Thanks for playing!

      • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        0·
        13 days ago

        I think what people generally mean when they say programming language (other than just a language to write a program) is that the language is turing complete. Even with this more limited definition, JavaScript, Bash, and Powershell are turing complete and therefore programming languages.

  • itsathursday@lemmy.world
    2·
    14 days ago

    You guys are too slow, we need to hire more of you and let the sales teams use AI to add features the client asks without waiting for you.

    AI can code now, in 2 mins I can create an app, so it shouldn’t take you long to make changes to this 10year old product.

  • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
    1·
    13 days ago

    Compile your kernel with a different version of ld then shipped with your distro. I have this right now in Debian testing and it’s enraging. I’m not even sure if that’s the source of my error