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FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world to Gaming@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

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FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world to Gaming@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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    In what world is c++ better for cross platform than Java?

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      In a world with consoles. Java needs a JVM, and those aren’t typical with things like the Switch (2 soon), PS5, and Xbox Series (half the alphabet).

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        Oh ok that’s fair enough. I forget those exist sometimes.

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          You forget consoles exist?

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            I think they meant JVMs.

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            Yeah, except retro consoles.

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      C++ is generally more performant than Java.

      https://programming-language-benchmarks.vercel.app/java-vs-cpp

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        What’s that got to do with making things cross platform? Java programs only need to run in a Java runtime environment of which there’s one for basically everything. If you make something that runs in a JRE, it’ll be able to run on any device with a JRE that’s up to date for it.

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          given how many targets are supported by llvm there’s really little difference in cross platform support asides from building artifacts for the specific target platform. wrapping package delivery in a package manager removes the additional complexity to the end user.

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          Minecraft Java runs like dog shit. Making a faster port of it was worth it. They just botched it because Microsoft got its hands on it.

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            Oh yeah that totally explains why it’s always been perfectly fine for me as long as I’m not looking at a giant wall of those shelves that display their contents from whatever modpack that was.

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              Bedrock routinely outperforms java.

              https://piped.video/watch?v=qLjOIulsNcM

              https://piped.video/watch?v=Z4GrbD2MA5o

              https://piped.video/watch?v=p_mCekWWW_8

              Just because you’re perfectly fine doesn’t mean all other machines are.

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                So? What’s that got to do with making it cross platform?

                I could ask what makes food hot and you would come in here telling me your refrigerator brand uses less electricity.

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                  I wasn’t strictly talking about cross platform. I was talking about performance, which is tangential to the cross platform thing.

                  If you’re planning on making a game cross platform, you should choose a language that performs well for gaming on all platforms. Java ain’t that. Which answers your question:

                  In what world is c++ better for cross platform than Java?

                  C++ is better for this application.

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