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    Both suck.

    Reddit has the base and the niche communities and the activity, but is scummy for its own reasons.

    Lemmy has the structure/organization but none of the niche interest activity that kept me on Reddit for so long. Plus it’s got all the weird pro china shit and an even worse problem with the hive mind bullshit than Reddit.

    With the death of third party apps, I would say that my time that was formerly spent on Reddit is now spent 10% still on Reddit, 15-20% on Lemmy, and the rest just isn’t spent on that sort of thing anymore.

    I’ve been reading more, maybe a 2-5% increase on Facebook of all places, going to the source for news (Axios, Washington Post mostly), gaming with the computer time, maybe a 15% increase on YouTube time…started streaming more shows and stuff, and spent more time outside, even in the sweltering summer heat.

    So basically for me, Lemmy has turned out to not be a reddit replacement, and instead that time has just been split up many different ways.

    I do miss Reddit, and wish that Lemmy had indeed been a workable alternative, but it’s just not. I won’t go back to Reddit because I accessed it 95% on a mobile 3rd party app…but just because I won’t go back doesn’t mean that Lemmy is just as good.

    As time goes on, I’m starting to realize that the time I still spend here is mostly because I want it to be better and I’m trying to be active long enough to see that change happen…but the longer I just kill time here waiting for it, the more I see shit I don’t like.

    I would expect that while I’ll still keep my account open, I’ll probably be done with Lemmy by the end of the year.

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        And that a sizable portion of that small user base are batshit extremists

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        Agreed. I see a lot of the same names around various different subs. My only complaint is the sports subs have a lot fewer folks and thus less engagement on GDTs but otherwise everyone seems to be more real and less toxic as a community, hopefully that vibe stays as the numbers grow.

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      I just see too much of the same posts and I’m not sure if it’s a user issue or not sometimes i reopen the front page after 3 days and 25% of the posts I’ve already seen plus a lot of posts are about reddit anyway :(

      6/10

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      This is basically me, but reverse the lemmy and reddit percentages. I’m halfway through the Vampire: The Masquerade Clan Novel series 🤘

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      I mean we can build niche comtent, just going to take a lot of time. For now lemmy is refreshing because most are here toconverse on topics and not 100s of trolls like

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        I mean we can build niche comtent, just going to take a lot of time.

        And in the mean time?

        Also “can” doesn’t mean “will”. And most, myself included, aren’t going to be willing to just…hang around…for months or years or however long that takes to happen. And every time that happens, the timeline gets pushed to the right.

        At some point it just won’t happen.

        For now lemmy is refreshing because most are here toconverse on topics and not 100s of trolls like

        Hah! Good one.

        In my experience so far here, there’s significantly better odds of running into trolls on Lemmy than Reddit.

        Sure, in (some unspecified amount of) time, Lemmy might get more and varied and more populous communities, and it might see an overall improvement in the broad makeup of the overall user base…but for now it’s less diverse, less busy, and less friendly than Reddit, and unfortunately, those deficiencies are self-perpetuating.

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      It’s wild how digitally lost I’ve been since I left reddit. And they deleted one of my favorite subs so there is no going back…

      It’s funny you mention Facebook. I deleted mine years ago, without grabbing all the photos I had, which I regret big time.

      I had hundreds of folks I knew in real life on there, and I’ve considered going back a lot in the last few weeks.

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      HEY, there were tens of us! I honestly didn’t know about any other app until far too long to admit…but that was the only one i liked, so once it was gone so was I. I do appreciate the diversity of posts here, a LOT more than the algorithm of reddit (or any other social media). I have my setting at all, new and there is some wild shit going on around the world. Except for the russian/chinese simps, this is pretty good. (FWIW, since i stated that I should explain myself: anyone who thinks any single current government is better than another is completely compromised by that governments propaganda)

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        To your last point. If that were true then it follows that all governments are exactly as good (or as bad) as each other. You don’t seriously believe that every single government on earth have equal merit though? Plenty of people have unjustified opinions of certain governments but that doesn’t mean that every opinion is unjustified and there are no better/worse governments.

        If I asked you which government was better, Sweden or North Korea, it’s not exactly a stretch to say there is an objective answer. A governments job is to manage the nation for the people, and some countries do a far better job of that than others.

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          I think the point I was trying to make was that making your whole persona about one government over another is…well…shit. I mean each one has good/bad points, however I do not see the point in working myself up over who is currently exploiting the majority of people.

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      Totally. I can only see it improving from here. It’s clear there are tons of committed users, one’s that will continue posting for years to come.

      I am one of them.

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    The lack of niche communities is one thing, but the real long term drag is the fact that most of this place is just c/Linux or c/linuxmemes even if it’s just c/memes or literally any community.

    Can’t go anywhere without some “Microsoft bad, Chromium bad” content or comments clogging everything up. Keep that shit in the places it belongs or you’re going to see more people abandon the site as they realize it’s all just the same people with the same three interests in every place.

    That and it really feels like the worst of reddit came here, I’ve seen people get downvoted to hell over obvious misinterpretation of their comments by people who have almost zero reading comprehension skills.

    Lemmy needs to fix its shit.

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        Oh I understand why but as someone who uses Linux and doesn’t really put any data into social media, it’s fucking exhausting to constantly have people act like they understand the one extra little key thing that’ll save you from the government or private entities. Most of them just regurgitating random bullshit they hear and don’t know a fucking thing about.

        Oh you gotta have a DNS pihole, you gotta have Linux on everything or you like sucking Gate’s dick, no not that distro! Arch/Debian/Mint! Why do you need tab stacking/side bars/whatever else Firefox doesn’t have? Chromium based browsers bad!

        It’s clear why people hate Linux users, they’re insufferable. Truly the vegans of the internet.

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      So many tankies, and an unhealty obsession with foss and anything foss related (if you don’t live off the land, you’re part of the problem yadda yadda).

      Disc: I love linux, Firefox, etc and use them everyday (but also use chrome, amazon, etc), but ffs stop the preaching and shaming.

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    Post your content here if you want to have alternatives. Whining about lack of alternatives and not using them after you find them is pointless, imho

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    The only reason I left is removal of third party apps. The more Lemmy users shit on the rest of it the more likely I am to return occasionally on desktop cause it makes me think people here dont want the same things I want, or actually have problems with the things I want.

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      I check out reddit every few days and tbh lemmy has the same amount of mainstream content. The only difference is that reddit niche subs are more active.

      I think the fact that anyone can make the same community on a new instance diminishes niche communities more. If I pick a game on reddit ill find 2 or so instances with lots of use. On lemmy there will be 10 communities all mostly abandoned.

      You can feel a difference on reddit though. Quality content and content numbers are greatly reduced from even a month ago.

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    I am just never going back, lemmy has less content of course but the comments on what is here is just a totally different level, reddit just feels dirty and corrupt in comparison,

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    It’s good for me, keeps me online for about an hour before I go out and get an irl life

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    I’m really trying to be positive, guys. I’m daily driving Lemmy, watching all the content here. I’ve only logged to reddit once thinking “at least old.reddit.com works”, and it does, but after clicking on posts it goes back to new so I said “screw it” and I’m sticking with Lemmy for now. But all communities I’ve followed on Reddit are either small, non-existent, or just bots reposting Reddit posts. I know about this site, and I’m guessing a lot of you too, by googling “reddit alternative”. Hate on Reddit will only get you so far. Maybe I’m wrong here, but in my opinion main problem of Lemmy is a lack of reach. I like Lemmy and I’ll definitely stick with it, but I don’t think it will be as big as reddit. Lemmy needs something that would make people go to it, and “it’s not reddit” is not enough.

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      If you log in there’s a setting to keep you on old Reddit. Not that I think we should go back, just if we have to at least it can be semi tolerable.

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    It’s a bit disappointing that most of the communities for specific content are so inactive on here, but I still prefer it to the types of banal, waste-of-time, repetitive content and comments that plague reddit and have caused my eyes to roll in a tailspin.

    Do I really have to choose one or the other, though?

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    Honestly, that’s fine - Lemmy is now a known alternative and best of all, has time to grow more naturally and be better situated for the next eventual migration (I’m a Reddit migrant myself).