Whenever a multibillion dollar celebrity or corporate entity appears overly concerned about a cause and is asking you to help donate, just remember that it’s only so they can write it off on their taxes and save a few bucks.
If Walmart really cared about the Children’s Stollary Hospital, why the fuck don’t they donate even just a small fraction of their unimaginable wealth?
Their goal is not to get you to help Maui. Their goal is to get you to subsidize their tax evasion. It’s a massive loophole in the tax system which is why every rich asshole has a charity or foundation these days.
They already pay more taxes than you and they are gathering donations for a great cause. Some people are never grateful no matter what you do
We are trying to be realistic when talking about the real causes behind what the wealthy class does anything
Yes, some do it for the good, but to a point we all know they are playong the tax game
á la Panama papers
At least they have donated $10 million to the fund.
Only a cool 0.3% of their combined networth.
Your point? Would you donate half of everything you own or all of it? Probably not. At least they’re helping.
People complaining about rich people not donating more are hypocrites, cause I don’t see any of you donating too or donating the percentage of what you earn/ have in the bank that you think they should be donating.
If they donate half of what they own they would have more money than they and their family and their ancestors could ever spend. If i donate half my money, i can’t pay rent anymore.
What a silly argument. I guess next week they can donate the other half of their wealth for the next disaster and just be a broke poster on lemmy, eh?
Let’s see the receipt for your donation of .03 of your net worth, then?
Wanna see mine? I don’t have one, but I’m not sitting here complaining about people who donated 10M, either.
Boot taste good?
I am barely surviving.
I feel you. Me too.
That’s why it’s good that people are donating to funds like these. Celebs donate big amounts. Even if it’s less that 1% of their worth. Who cares? It’s 10mil, that’s a lot of money and can do a lot of good.
My point was, I notice the people who screech about celebs not donating enough either don’t donate themselves or wouldn’t even consider donating the percentage of their money that they feel these people should be donating. It’s hypocritical.
The rock is a good person, he’s worked to get where he is. He’s entitled to his money just like every other Tom, dick and harry is.
As much as I dislike shitty rich people, looking at you Elon, it’s still their money. And if we screech about how they should spend their money, it’s only fair that we can then be told how to use ours too. Would it be nice if people like him used money for good, yes of course. But end of the day, it’s their money to do with as they choose. And even a donation that isn’t huge to them, is huge to others in need. So it shouldn’t be complained about. It should be seen as good.
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It’s simple: I also worked where I am (arguably harder than a movie star) and I don’t have a fucking mansion and 10 million to throw at charities.
It’s not fair so don’t expect us to treat them fairly.
Oprah Winfrey grew up in inner city poverty where she was sexually abused, bounced to different homes, so maybe we don’t pretend her path was easy.
Her current wealth is the result of the decisions she’s made. Not every wealthy person can say that they earned their wealth but as she started with nothing… she can.
Now ask yourself 2 things:
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Who got fucked to get her where she is?
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Does she need that much more than us, and why doesn’t she feel the need to give it all back to help people who are in that situation she started out in?
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If you think making movies is so easy, then go and do it.
If it’s way easier than what you do then it shouldn’t be that difficult right?
Oh ffs you know what I mean, stop that.
Is it their money though? They didn’t make it by themselves, they have whole teams they depend on and people that, in this case, watch them. The simplest answer is that they shouldn’t have to give because they should be paying enough taxes (i.e. more than they pay now) that they shouldn’t have to worry about aid programs not having enough money to help.
You have fallen for wealthy classes trap.
Hope you keep learning!
"Problem 1: Never trust a billionaire. Problem 2: When a billionaire starts a fund, DON’T GIVE THEM MONEY. Problem 3: How do you think a billionaire becomes a billionaire?
Thank you Sabby for exposing these rich frauds.
DON’T GIVE THESE PEOPLE ANYTHING"
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If you don’t know how the wealthy class use non-profits and other “philanthropy” to funnel money, here is a clip below that explains.
Oprah’s Maui Fund QUESTIONED (clip)
I sent in a nickel, so Oprah and I are in the same level now with philanthropy.
People complaining about rich people not donating more are hypocrites
This is the trap of marketing and communication. They donate for the image, to hide the image of the rich disconnected from the reality of the poorer.
I’m all for the rich to contribute to pay and help the people, but not through charity. The rich must be taxed, and these taxes serves to help with government jobs, so everyone has a word to say. With taxes, we help the poorer, we help in case of natural disasters, we found the researches, we give access to healthcare, we… With charity, we help the riches to keep an oppressive system of power over the poorest. It’s a system to keep the huge gap between rich and poor.
The rich are taxed. They pay way more than you do. They pay way more than the non rich people combined. The top 10 rich people pay more taxes than all the non rich people. So don’t come at me about taxes. Your tax contribution is basically nothing. Whereas they pay insane amounts.
In my country. You pay 40% tax if you earn over 100k a year. Which isn’t even rich, but you basically give up nearly half your wage you work fkn hard for. So don’t try pull the tax bullshit.
Exactly this. Last year I paid so much in taxes that I almost had to cancel one of my ski trips to the Swiss alps and had to think really hard about whether to hold off on buying a new private jet (my old one is already several years old and it makes me feel embarrassed when my friends have a newer one than me).
Meanwhile, lazy poors walk around crying like I’m not paying enough when what do they pay? A few thousand dollars? Basically they pay the price of one dinner? Stop complaining, ingrates!
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donate all the time, but the US tax system caps my donation deduction to 650… Is there some loop hole where i can actuallly deduct evetything i donate?
Edit: I see, i need to itemize…
Her land on Maui is worth $300mil at least. She needs $10mil, sell 3% of her land. Or hell, donate it directly to the people of Maui. Given most Americans don’t have $500 in savings, I’ll match her .3% and donate $2.
Bernard Arnault style ? Hmm…
pretty freaking fair.
Some context, if you need it. I know I did:
https://www.insider.com/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-oprah-winfrey-backlash-maui-wildfire-fund-2023-9
What makes me laugh about this entire things is that if Oprah Winfrey & The Rock didn’t donate anything this conversation would not even be happening & I’m sure everyone here would be happier.
Just nod, good for them, more money to Maui, move on lmao
Well, some say they did it on purpose to distract from the wealthy buying up all the land for cheap.
Oprah lives there so it’s really special to her… so she is asking for your donations
She owns land and has property all over the world.
This is more than a person that “cares” for the people. They are using this tragedy to make money.
The video talks about how they are funneling the money and how they will most likely use it, to be cear some money will go to the some people.
If you don’t know how the wealthy class use non-profits and other “philanthropy” to funnel money, here is a clip below that explains.
Oprah’s Maui Fund QUESTIONED (clip)
The video speculates without proof and the person behind it clearly has a chip on their shoulder re Oprah. If there are violations of the 501© laws, I recommend reporting the charity to the regulators versus making videos on YouTube that provide as much proof as an antivaxxer pamphlet.
Understandable view point, thanks for calling it out!
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Sending people extreme porn because you’re upset is still sexual assault you fucking creep. Them having money doesn’t change the fact that you’re literally bragging about sexual assault.
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I didn’t say it was against the law. I said it was sexual assault. Justifying it is disgusting. They upset you so you spam them with extreme porn, it’s such childish logic to justify scum behavior.
I’d ask you to consider the inverse where you get spammed with snuff porn or something because you upset someone but I don’t think empathy is something you care about. Just assuaging your ego after feeling disrespected.
You’re objectively a bad person based on your position.
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I never said it was illegal chucklenuts. I said it was despicable. Keep coping, it won’t end up making you a good person suddenly but at least everyone else can have a clear understanding of how disgusting you are.
Your morals justify sexual assault and harassment. You’re a scum fuck with backwards self serving beliefs. You’ll never even see how gross you are because most people aren’t so pathetic to pull what you unashamedly admit to doing.
By all means rant some more, it won’t change what you’ve already admitted too, it’ll just make you come across clearer as the sleazy loser you are.
Edit: also what the fuck is that massive projection in your “devils advocate” bullshit? You sound even more unhinged.
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They’re doing their part by using their platform to spread awareness of the issue and get people to chip in. No good deed goes unpunished.
Anytime I see “Awareness”, I see it as a laundering of donation mnbey to an executive board.
This is the thread I’ve been waiting for my whole life
Statement is very true. Everytime my grocery store asks for donations at the cash, I just tell the cashier no and the billion dollar company should just do it themselves and not use me as a tax write off.
They typically are shocked and don’t know how to reply. It’s quite amusing.
This is why retail sucks. Just pay for your stuff.
I do…don’t ask me to donate to a billionaire if you don’t want to hear my reason why I don’t. It’s always polite, you idiots seem to think I’m being an aggressive asshole.
As if the cashier is trying to engage in a discussion of class. As if they aren’t paid to ask. Just say no and feel secure with your own reasons without having to justify yourself. It’s like when I worked at ace hardware in high school and every boomer would need to tell me how dumb it is to phase out incandescent light bulbs. Trying to preach to someone about your convictions against their will is so pointless and annoying.
Or…I can address questions that are asked to me and provide me reasoning in a non condescending way to hopefully educate others on the subject…
Who’s preaching…I’m not starting the topic of discussion, they are. In your words, they are being paid to start this conversation. I don’t go shopping to be asked to give money for nothing, so if they open with that discussion they will know my reasoning for not donating.
Don’t see what your frustration with manufacture changes has to do with a company directly begging for free money from its customers but ok…
They must start the topic to have the job. They likely already know. They likely don’t care. Your game forces them to pretend to care. You are holding them hostage because their genuine reaction would be to ignore you but they can’t do that while working. You are causing them mental pain. You are forcing them to be something they aren’t until you leave.
And? No, the company’s game forced them to care by paying them to care. The company initiated contact with me, so I continued it. They are literally being paid to talk about this. I’m not holding them hostage at all.
Your mental paid is a retarded exaggeration. I’m sure the companies do way worse mental attacks then me calling their company shit
Also their company is forcing them to be someone and something they aren’t. I’m not. I’m playing along with THEIR bullshit.
You think your standing up for the cashier’s, but really your standing up for billionaires who would gladly kill you and sell your body for profit. Good job.
They typically are shocked and don’t know how to reply. It’s quite amusing.
Or they just don’t have enough energy and paycheck to deal with your bullshit.
Seriously, is this what you think eating the rich looks like? Being an asshole to public-facing workers?
It’s not being an asshole…it’s called giving my opinion. They ask, I give. Why just say no like a mindless sheep…maybe the cashier’s will listen and stop asking. They are paid to ring up products, not beg.
If the rich fucker was there, I’d be a real asshole. What I do, is only considered by weak minded people who can’t be offended by anything.
yet they have the energy to beg for money for a billion dollar corporation?
it’s called keeping your shitty job because you don’t have the choice or privilege to tell them otherwise.
Thank you for showing that you’ve never worked a day in your life or have the privilege to say whatever you want without consequence.
Their job is to ring up products, not beg for money from customers.
Except if their caught not asking they get in trouble, how many donations they get are probably also tracked. They have to ask to keep their minimum wage job, stop being an asshole
I’m not being an asshole. If their job demands they talk to me avout a subject, why is it bad that I also talk about the subject?
You stop being the asshole
Nobody firing you over that shit lol stop being such a wimp at work.
Annoyed as fuck and wanting you to leave.
Not shocked. Have a lot of replies, but not allowed to call anyone the R bomb either, so they’re usually holding their tongues.
Being an asshole to the worker is the exact opposite of taking a “sharp witted and coy” shot at billionaires, but is just really fucking stupid.
Thank you AnarchKaren.
Who said I was an asshole about it…stop assuming stuff, makes you stinky.
The real asshole is the BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY ASKING FOR HANDOUTS and using underpayed employment to do it…
Then go write an email to the CEO instead of bothering the cashiers for something they’re literally forced to ask you.
Why would I. I didn’t bring up the topic, they did. They can tell their superiors, not my responsibility
Yeah wow you really owned that cashier who is neither a billionaire nor responsible for decisions made by their employer. You sound like a douche.
They are the face of the company. I was never rude to them. I state why I don’t donate to billionaires and leave it at that. At no point is there an argument or name calling like you just did.
I listen to a podcast debunking Alex Jones. He tells stories exactly in the same fashion, but usually about face masks not working, Covid denial, or some new world order nonsense. Including the whole cashier was shocked or thanked him blah blah blah. Insufferable.
Are you comparing me to that idiot who talked about gay frogs? Lol
We all have faults, and some that echo terrible people. Like I ramble and talk too much, not very concise and to the point. Alex Jones also has that fault, though I’m pretty sure he intentionally weaponizes it, while I just wallow in self hatred while doing the very thing I hate about myself.
