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      Blehh yeah it feels a little astroturfy, all the push to conflating leftists with china-loving authoritarians. Makes a man wonder if libs actually stand for anything at all.

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          It doesn’t help that the tankies are trying to push the idea that “Tankie is a slur against all communists/leftists!” The word “tankie” was invented by communists as an insult against those specific “communists” the cheer on brutal oppression of civilians – particularly when those civilians are communists themselves.

          The irony is tankies hate the “wrong kind of leftist” just as much as their other ideological enemies.

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            I’ve known many tankies (myself included) and I’ve never met a single one that thought it was a slur, but ok. Those civilians were fascists uprising BTW.

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      Is startreck.website federated with hexbear? When sh.itjust.workes got federated by hexbear a few days ago, about a third of all was pro tankie memes and discussion from hexbear. They mostly stayed to their communities, but sometimes I would come across comments on memes from .ml.

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        No a third of posts were people complaining they saw someone that might have been a tankie and demanding to live in a neo lib echochamber, I barely saw any actual tankie talking points

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          I’d estimate maybe 10% of posts were responding to the 35% of posts. But that’s just rough estimates. The tankie taking points were in the comments, the memes were often just saying America bad in different ways.

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            Oh, I guess if you count any criticism of America to automatically make somthing tankie then I guess maybe

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              You must not have been reading a lot of comments. It was getting borderline absurd for 2 days. They sound alright by description, but all they did was brigade the comment sections spewing crap at anyone a cm off of their ideology

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                I spend all my time in the comments, there were annoying pigpooping GIFs and some trash comments but also some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. It’s not like the comment sections never had trash comments and nonsence before.

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      I have seen my fair share of tankies here, so there definitely is a presence of them here. But I also do think a lot of the complaints come from people who assume any leftist user or post is also a “tankie.”

      Like I do see a lot of leftist memes posted to memes@lemmy.ml, which might be where a lot of the complaints are coming from. Likewise there has been a lot of drama with hexbear federating with a lot of communities that were previously shielded from them.

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        I’m talking about hexbear as tankie specifically. I haven’t really seen any reasonable leftists on that instance. They use lib as an insult to give an idea.

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        They are unironically Marxist-Leninists and actively chase away democratic socialists, and say things like “nuking American is based.”

        I’m not sure what else you want.

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    We need more people on lemmy from all different backgrounds to balance these debates out. Defederation may still occur, but the majority will not be a bunch of radical lefties.

    As tankies would say “diversity is our strength!”, so lemmy needs more diversity of opinion.