• 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    There are far top few meaningful differences between Republicans and Democrats, but stuff like this shows the base (not the leaders) of one party is at least amenable to reality, and the other largely isn’t.

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    nore worried about the fact that of those that answered that global warming isn’t occurring, only 50% still think that it doesn’t exist in a different question. did the other 50% just suddenly reconsider?

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      You heard it, folks! I’m inviting them to a $10K per head campaign dinner where I will sternly suggest they explore the possibility of researching a serious scaling back (5 bps!) of coal mining.

      For our self-defense

      spoiler

      liberalism

  • 2Password2Remember [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    why is the “climate change doesn’t exist” bar for the second question so much smaller than the “no” bar for the first question? am I an idiot or does that just not make any sense?

    Death to America

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    I’ve known a guy for like 20 years, currently in his 60s, who firmly believes that anthropogenic climate change is entirely false.

    He has a bachelors degree in physics, a bachelors degree in mathematics, and a Ph.D in economics. He’s written a handful of high level Econ textbooks, he’s worked as a professor off and on at 3 or 4 respected universities here in the US. He was most recently employed at a supply chain consulting firm, making an ungodly amount of money.

    By all accounts, he’s an extremely smart, well-educated, well-read guy. But holy shit if that boomer isn’t constantly reposting the most transparently fake anti-science nonsense on his Facebook page. Think, “New research proves that Climate Change is a liberal myth” - The Religious Conservative Storm.

    Just demonstrates how it doesn’t matter how educated someone is if they don’t think critically about information that confirms their expectations.

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      I know a highly educated seismologist who makes his work his hobby and has been an enthusiast for nature-related pursuits for decades…

      And he thinks people have next to zero contributions to the climate. His go-tos are volcanoes and sunspots to explain climate changes, and he blames, I kid you not, the “big green energy hoax” for conflicting data.

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      There be people like that. My dad was a professor for applied mathematics at a top level university in Germany, published books etc. Nowadays he works as an indepentdent business consultants and is insanely successful on an international level. And while he does believe climate change is real he is very, uhm, alternative when it comes to health and nutrition. Think fruit juices and nutrition supplements and sun doesn’t cause cancer and “holding a lazer to your heel makes your rotten teeth unrotten” kinda stuff. (Didn’t work.) Watches weird ass youtube videos by “experts”. Me, having a M.Sc. in Nutrition and Biomedicine, I am in no way an expert like these people or himself when it comes to nutrition, health and medicine, according to him. People can be extremely smart and talented in some parts of their lives and be completely bonkers in others.

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        Yeah sounds very similar. And weird coincidence, but the guy I’m talking about is also German. Lives in the US now, but his parents don’t speak English, he came here as a kid I believe.

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          My dad isn’t German but he only became obsessed with alt health and nutrition once he moved to Germany… Coincidence? I think not - there must be something in the air here that turns people crazy

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            How weird. My sample size is now 2, I think I’m ready to draw a conclusion and only consider evidence that confirms it going forward.

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              That reminds me how my father loves to tell the story of a doctor who wasn’t convinced that sun causes skin cancer so he went to India for a year and didn’t wear sunscreen once and lo and behold he didn’t get cancer so he disproved that sun causes cancer.

              Again, my dad is a mathematician. Granted, analytical and computer algebra, not statistics, but dear Lord.

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    They mainly blame it on the sun or they just see it as “natural warming” just the way ice ages have existed.

    For example: here’s one of Germany’s leading right wing populists (and inbred nazi descendant wannabe noble) Beatrix von Storch saying: “Well maybe we need to tell the sun to shine less!” when being asked about how to tackle climate change.

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    I have a PhD in particle physics from a top 10 university in the world, and I don’t believe climate change is a problem. And I’m also not interested in discussing it (just so that no one comes with bs talking points, I’ve seen enough). I’m just saying this so that you don’t stumble on your own delusional bubble too much.

    You don’t believe in science. You believe in TV. You haven’t read a single peer reviewed paper on the matter, let alone papers that have a different point of view. So spare me your condescending bullshit.

    Now go ahead and downvote me so that you can sleep better at night after having excluded me, the infidel. Just remember that many people out there have degrees, educated and read 100 times on the matter than you and disagree with your delusions on the matter. Enjoy four faith in TV.

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        This is good bait but I almost totally believe it, the kind of person who spends a decade being told they’re a very smart math boy at a top university is extremely susceptible to believing every whim of theirs is genuinely brilliant

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          More engineers buy into cults, per capita, than the general population. Being told they are the smartest boy all day makes them unable to consider if they’ve been duped.

          I don’t think it’s impossible for that climate denialist chud to have some sciencey degree (though absolutely no evidence has been presented so far), but even if one was present, that doesn’t actually mean anything when it comes to horrible takes and general edgelord nonsense.

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        Today is your lucky day. Since I’m in a good mood, let’s see if you’ll put your money where your mouth is.

        I will reveal my real name, my PhD thesis, with a link to the university linking to my thesis. Here’s the bet: if I can prove it (that I have a PhD in particle physics from a prestigious university of top 10), you pay me one whole fucking bitcoin. If not, I’ll pay you one bitcoin.

        We’ll find a betting platform (of your choice if you wish) where we deposit these bitcoins into a multisig address with a referee. One of us wins based on the bet.

        Are you gonna put your money where your mouth is? Or a dick where you learn not to open your mouth next time?

        What do you say?

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            See? The moment you’re required to be responsible for a word you said, you ran away… hahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha.

            Talk is easy. This is why climate change is mainstream, because dumb people with big mouths make their dumb opinions sound real with fake confidence. Now you know what your confidence is worth. Class dismissed.

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                Perfect! I am an asshole, proudly so. Though if I were dumb I wouldn’t be where I am today. So your opinion means very little to me. Nighty night.

                • being dumb is exactly how you got where you are.

                  having a PhD doesn’t mean you think critically or can evaluate literature anymore. and it definitely does not give you license to kick out of your coverage, like you’re trying desperately to do here…

                  having your little credential just means your committee wanted you gone after 5 years of being an asshole and didn’t want to fuck the stats of whatever shit tier program’s orifice you oozed out of.

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          Not sure if this is a bit or if you’re a world-class example of people so specialized that they have deluded themselves into believing they are experts in everything because of how special their specialization made them feel in college.

          I have a PhD in particle physics

          What does that have to do with your claim to be an authority on the reality of climate change?

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            At least I’m a freaking physicist. I understand statistics and math. You believe freaking ecologists for crying our loud! Anyone who talks for climate change is believed, and anyone who is against it is questioned. Wtf does Bill Nye or Tyson have to do with climate change? Yet somehow no one tells them “stfu, this isn’t your field”. They’re just “TV”. No one even comes close to researching this matter before spitting out a dumb opinion to avoid peer pressure.

            But suddenly when someone disagrees, now they lose all their credentials and it isn’t their specialty.

            This game is being played on a global scale. So don’t play the game “specialty and field”, because a monkey agreeing with you can become an authoritative source from what I saw. All you have to do is silence everyone who disagrees with you. I’m not silenced yet, and I have an opinion, and no one has to give a shit for all I care.

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              At least I’m a freaking physicist

              So far your qualifications involve claiming you’re a “freaking physicist” and then begging for internet funny money. pathetic

              a monkey agreeing with you

              I know you’re a cryptocurrency rube already but spare us all your NFT collection, please. cryptocurrency dumpster-fire

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      You can measure community’s IQ by how far down you have to scroll through “dumb republicans, amirite xdxdxd?” before you reach a post like this one. And that guy with gifs in every message is obnoxious as fuck.