To be fair I didn’t see anything all that bad when I skimmed Hexbear but clearly Lemmygrad has no shortage of CCP and Stalin apologists.
Either way, I don’t know why you’re whining at me about a decision I didn’t make or agree to, and has nothing to do with why I don’t approve of tankie rhetoric.
Communism is a lemmy.ml community … Lemmy.world does not host any communist communities
Which is accessible by .world users, so why would we need a new one that isn’t as active? Lemm.ee doesn’t have an ALTA community, do you think they all hate ALTA?
196 is an Anarchist community, not a Marxist one. Supporting Marxism can get you banned there.
We’re a leftist community. I’ve never seen someone get banned for supporting Marxism, and I’d invite you to post to your heart’s content but the crux of your issue seems to be that we have very different definitions of authoritarianism/tankie posting.
Lemmygrad has a fairly standard Marxist stance. What do you count as “apoligism?”
Lemmy.ml hasn’t defederated from ATLA communities. Lemmy.world having no Marxist communities and showing signs of defederating from Lemmy.ml sends a pretty clear anti-Marxist stance, especially when they defederated from Marxist instances already.
196 does not advertise itself as anti-Marxist, but very quickly Marxists get branded “tankies” and get banned. It’s easy to pretend to support Marxists and allow Marxists but then brand them tankies if they take standard Marxist stances. That’s why it’s better to just call 196 an Anarchist instance, if Marx himself would be considered a Tankie.
CCP/Stalin apologists, people who defend the CPP/Stalin.
Lemmy.world having no Marxist communities …
Still has nothing to do with my disapproval of tankie rhetoric. Personally I think everyone should be given a chance to have a civil discussion even if I disagree, but defederation isn’t my decision.
but very quickly Marxists get branded “tankies” and get banned.
I’ve never seen a shred of evidence for this, and I can see the modlog. I’m open to checking it out and advocating change if you actually have something to support this, but frankly, you running defense for Lemmygrad doesn’t exactly lend you any credibility.
If you post Marxist/communist/socialist stuff without a hint of tankie shit or authoritarian apologetics and it gets you banned, you have it here on record that I’ll personally defend you and advocate for change in the community.
What counts as defending? Like, if I say I think it’s cool that China has high speed rail, am I a tankie? That’s why I am asking.
As for 196, I try to avoid discussing anything political there except for the most benign and uncontroversial takes possible, because that’s what that community tends to want.
Where do you draw the line between authoritarian and Marxist? What good Marxist movements have existed that don’t count as authoritarian to you? This all seems vibes-based.
CCP/Stalin apologists, people who defend the CPP/Stalin.
How about “advocacy of strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom”?
If you genuinely still don’t understand what it means to defend authoritarianism, I can’t help you. It doesn’t get more specific than what I’ve already given you.
Otherwise, I’m not going to keep entertaining willful ignorance.
To be fair I didn’t see anything all that bad when I skimmed Hexbear but clearly Lemmygrad has no shortage of CCP and Stalin apologists.
Either way, I don’t know why you’re whining at me about a decision I didn’t make or agree to, and has nothing to do with why I don’t approve of tankie rhetoric.
Which is accessible by .world users, so why would we need a new one that isn’t as active? Lemm.ee doesn’t have an ALTA community, do you think they all hate ALTA?
We’re a leftist community. I’ve never seen someone get banned for supporting Marxism, and I’d invite you to post to your heart’s content but the crux of your issue seems to be that we have very different definitions of authoritarianism/tankie posting.
Lemmygrad has a fairly standard Marxist stance. What do you count as “apoligism?”
Lemmy.ml hasn’t defederated from ATLA communities. Lemmy.world having no Marxist communities and showing signs of defederating from Lemmy.ml sends a pretty clear anti-Marxist stance, especially when they defederated from Marxist instances already.
196 does not advertise itself as anti-Marxist, but very quickly Marxists get branded “tankies” and get banned. It’s easy to pretend to support Marxists and allow Marxists but then brand them tankies if they take standard Marxist stances. That’s why it’s better to just call 196 an Anarchist instance, if Marx himself would be considered a Tankie.
CCP/Stalin apologists, people who defend the CPP/Stalin.
Still has nothing to do with my disapproval of tankie rhetoric. Personally I think everyone should be given a chance to have a civil discussion even if I disagree, but defederation isn’t my decision.
I’ve never seen a shred of evidence for this, and I can see the modlog. I’m open to checking it out and advocating change if you actually have something to support this, but frankly, you running defense for Lemmygrad doesn’t exactly lend you any credibility.
If you post Marxist/communist/socialist stuff without a hint of tankie shit or authoritarian apologetics and it gets you banned, you have it here on record that I’ll personally defend you and advocate for change in the community.
What counts as defending? Like, if I say I think it’s cool that China has high speed rail, am I a tankie? That’s why I am asking.
As for 196, I try to avoid discussing anything political there except for the most benign and uncontroversial takes possible, because that’s what that community tends to want.
Where do you draw the line between authoritarian and Marxist? What good Marxist movements have existed that don’t count as authoritarian to you? This all seems vibes-based.
You’ve gotta be being deliberately obtuse.
Everyone does that to different degrees, where is the line? Is it a vibe check?
If you genuinely still don’t understand what it means to defend authoritarianism, I can’t help you. It doesn’t get more specific than what I’ve already given you.
Otherwise, I’m not going to keep entertaining willful ignorance.