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Seems like it wouldn’t really matter who he tested it on.

It doesn’t have to be the same thing as photography. If it was the same thing as photography they’d be a photographer. What’s important is the results it produces.

Which is fine, the cartoonist’s background is separate from the argument being presented. But people do kind of go nuts when Stonetoss is involved because he is an exceptionally garbage sort of human.

Are you seriously using the “you wouldn’t steal a car” analogy?

This same argument can be used against any advancement of technology that puts any person out of work. It completely disregards the benefits that come from those technological advancements for other people. Should we have rejected the development of electrical lighting to protect the jobs of the lamplighters?

The solution to this is not to suppress the development of new technologies. It’s to try to build a society where “having a job” is not a prerequisite for food, shelter and security.

Stonetoss is a Nazi. Straight up.

Where did I say otherwise? I’m only addressing the prevalence of propaganda and our susceptibility to it, not Russia’s war measures or oppressive lack of free speech.

Yup. At least one of those bullet points is something I actually believe myself, I just recognize that a lot of people who believe it haven’t really thought about it.

I never said they were conspiracy theories. This is about groupthink and propaganda, with “propaganda” in this context being on the looser end of its definition since it’s not literally government-organized. It’s just a list of things that people in the communities I frequent have a common belief in that can’t be easily debated due to the strength of that shared belief.

This isn’t about whether I personally agree or disagree with these points. I actually do agree with some of them, I just recognize that it’s difficult to discuss them with any nuance. I don’t like it when people agree with me for mindless reasons either.

And machines have been eliminating jobs since the dawn of the industrial revolution. We’ve just been finding more jobs that need doing to keep up with that. No guarantee that that treadmill will run forever.

Right at this moment there are people that are doing minimum wage jobs that don’t have enough money to survive on. How about we solve the present day problems instead of worrying about the problems of some sci-fi future world?

You contradicted yourself in two sentences. People being unable to survive on what they can earn is a present day problem, not “some sci-fi future world.” The problem that UBI is attempting to solve is already here. It’s just going to grow worse over time.

I don’t think that’s what top hat guy is trying to imply, I think he’s just spewing some generic “our system is awesome! Don’t change it!” stuff.

Same, I can admit that “both sides” have some pretty lousy people on them and still think that overall Russia are the “baddies” in this war and should ideally lose it. And that Ukraine may have some lousy people but that overall the trajectory of their society is positive and the good folks seem to be on the rise.

Okay, here’s a whole bunch I can think of off the top of my head.

• Opposition to DEI initiatives, feminism, affirmative action, immigration, etc., are rooted in racism/sexism. Even dislike for certain movies is rooted in racism/sexism.
• People are being stolen from and/or their privacy is being violated when companies use public data about them to train AI, target ads, etc. People get really mad about this.
• On a similar note, AI art “has no soul” and AI artists aren’t “real artists.”
• Hamas and/or Israel are evil. Pick whatever position you want on this conflict, there’s a flood of propaganda pushing it and reasoned discussion that goes against it is hard.
• Everything Elon Musk does is somehow evil or idiotic.
• Cryptocurrency is a scam. AI is a scam. <insert some other new technology> is a scam.
• Religion is bad.
• All cops are bastards.
• Unions are good and corporations are bad. Heck, the “capitalism is bad” message in this comic is itself propaganda.
• Cancelling major NASA initiatives like Artemis or Mars Sample Return (or James Webb, Space Shuttle, etc. historically) would be a disaster for space exploration and science, despite their wildly spiralling costs.

Okay, that last one is perhaps getting down into the weeds of one of the more particular communities I find myself in. :)

Of course, there are other communities out there that I’m not commonly in that I expect have the opposite “everyone agrees” views on a lot of these things - DEI is part of some “gay agenda” conspiracy to groom children, Elon Musk is an infallible messiah, cops are the thin blue line protecting us from criminals, unions are destructive to the economy and cause unemployment, and so on and so forth. Propaganda is highly specific to its target audience, as this comic suggests.

The fundamental problem is just that in any significant group or community there are always hot-button issues that “everyone agrees” about, and attempting to question or discuss them with any nuance gets shouted down.

And so we pat ourselves on the back for not falling for the “capitalist propaganda,” not recognizing all the propaganda that we have fallen for. I’d mention some examples but of course that would garner downvotes and disapproval, and thus the cycle continues.

When you ask an LLM to write some prose, you could ask it “I’d like a Pulitzer-prize winning description of two snails mating” or you could ask it “I want the trashiest piece of garbage smut you can write about two snails mating.” Or even “rewrite this description of two snails mating to be less trashy and smutty.” In order for the LLM to be able to give the user what they want they need to know what “trashy piece of garbage smut” is. Negative examples are still very useful for LLM training.

That’s just a matter of properly tagging the training data, which AI trainers need to do regardless.

My first thought was “does he have pointy breasts under the sheets? Or maybe some kind of… double erection?” Fortunately I realized they were feet pretty quickly.

The damned cat keeps scratching at the seal, though.

If you moved to Mars and are upset because of the Martians there, then you’re the problem.

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