I think he’s just saying that working in a shit environment is sometimes more harmful than underpaying them. Pay is important but it won’t always keep someone if the job is awful.

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They’ve been pulling leetcode questions designed to take a lot of thought and effort. They then expect people to get them in 10 minutes.

Unfortunately, I never got a degree so even when I can ace those questions, I’m really just there to fill their interview quota for the most part.