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  • that type of holding system with a flight ticket? those have a departure date that may or may not be after the release window. yea that type of policy would never fly at an airline, it would only work with flights scheduled more than 2 or 3 weeks out otherwise you might as well make the flight free because once service is rendered it becomes a lot harder to extract the money they still had not received.

    It’s also creating a scenario where seats are booked without proof of payment, which puts the company at risk of those seats not selling if payment never goes through and also requires a system being in place that allows such a thing, which is also man hours for coding and design that is unlikely to exist. “Sorry there is an issue with the payment, please provide an alternative payment” is way more of an adequate response for this type of situation. As long as they are actually filing a ticket for them to investigate the issue.

    I’m firm with the opinion that the agent and Manager screwed up here allowing the call to last that long, it was clear the issue was not on their end(or at the very least resolvable by them) and should have terminated. I agree with some form of credit being issued (definitely not a free flight and a bunch of credit, but some form of credit), but it was strictly due to the length of the call since that is where the company failed here, not because of the fact they tried twice.

    note: edits were clarification of what i meant.


  • I fully agree it’s sometimes a self created issue(although payment processors screw stuff up all the time as well so depending on the flow it might not be) but it’s not one that is their responsibility to resolve, they have canceled the transaction on their end, its on the payment processor to realize this and give the money back.

    The only responsibility they have in this is investigating the issue on their end(which considering that trying again sometimes fixes it it may not even be on their end) to fix the payment flow, there’s no further obligation to the customer. They can’t give back money they don’t have, what ends up happening is like what the above described where the company takes a financial loss due to someone elses problem. Our old SOP for wireless deposits in the store I was at(we did a lot of second party contracting with Verizon and ATT) was informing the customer that the transaction has been cancelled/returned and should appear in the next 5-7 business days. If they complained we would state if they need the money sooner they could try contacting the payment provider, but it was out of our hands at this point. Us providing them money would end up giving the customer back the money twice, which was in no circumstance going to happen.

    You could make the argument that it’s good customer service but like… at the end of the day, theres no obligation and the company needs to run. It’s a price analysis. Will giving this credit eventually give a net profit on this customer? At a potential $2600 loss unless they are a frequent flyer I’m guessing no.

    I felt bad for customers that did a credit check for a phone, just to have it fail during processing, because it likely would fail the next retry due to a recent credit check, but we were out of options at that point, the store didn’t have a local payment scheme to set the customer up on, and they couldn’t just make it work without fully eating the cost of the device, which also the company wouldn’t be willing to do. It sucks for both parties.



  • The issue is “they” as in AA aren’t the ones holding that money, once the company cancels the payment it’s actually the bank (in this case either paypal or the card provider) that is withholding the money. Merchants generally don’t even receive the funds until like 4 or 5 days after authorization so they never had the money to hold.

    Paypal in particular has one of the longer authorization falloffs, with 7-14 days at worst I’ve seen. Most banks run a 3-4 day falloff, but that’s not the fault of the airline, that’s strictly a Paypal problem.

    In this case the airline decided to credit him which was nice but, the airline wasn’t the one holding the credit, the payment provider was, so really it wasn’t the responsibility of the airline to fix it.

    This is also one of the reasons why some companies (like steam for example) take the money regardless if you refund or if it fails processing) and then treats it like a return crediting it back, this bypasses that authorization falloff by taking the money, and then sending the money back, but this of course increases the merchants fees in regard to that payment processor



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    Why did the agent even last an hour.

    There were multiple better ways to handle that.

    1. There is nothing more I can do so I am terminating this line – shit customer service
    2. My tool set is limited in what it can do so to continue I am transferring you to a supervisor – better customer service but ignoring the situation as the manager likely can’t do anything either (as proven by the fact that eventually they just decided it wasn’t worth fighting and paid the guy off)
    3. You will need to use a different payment method to continue, I empathize with your situation but this is clearly an issue with somewhere with the payment provider. (this is honestly the “right” option. It was clear there was an issue somewhere with AA and Paypals payment system, trialing the definition of insanity is never a good thing. Just state you can’t do anything, request a different payment method and file a report on it for the engineering team to investigate into.)

    The fact that the company spent 11.5 hours of wages on one customer and then on top of that credited them a theoretical $2400 on top of that is insanity. The call should have taken no more than an hour tops excluding wait time. I expect that poor agent got a stern talking to after, and likely that agents supervisor as well, because that was not handled properly on either the customer service end nor the company end.



  • Honestly, the opposite is why I struggled to get into the show for so long. I have a bunch of messages with friends who were pushing me to watch it of “I don’t get why this happens, I don’t feel enjoyment out of the fights. He’s doing the same thing every time and then for some reason it works the last time”

    I think one piece is one of the few shows where I don’t actually like the main protag. I understand Luffy’s personality, and I understand that perseverance is his thing, but he takes a hammer approach for everything. I didn’t like how for the first 400 or so episodes his approach to fighting anything was to hit it repeatedly, just angrier. Defeating antagonists early on seemed super unrewarding because it was the same thing he does all battle, just for some reason it works that time.

    Note this does eventually change, but like the time commitment required to get to that part where it’s engaging is super high. I do like the show now that it’s actually starting to pick up but, I defo don’t believe that I would have made it to this point if I wasn’t also being pushed to since I was in a one piece DnD campaign and not understanding key elements was getting old lmao




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    I can definitely understand that as well. I rely on someone replying to the comment if I say something that is unclear or misinterpreted. It allows me to have better feedback anyway then trying to figure out where I went wrong on my own, plus it avoids being able to dismiss it as “well maybe it was just a unpopular opinion so it was downvoted”. I also find effort a huge factor as well, meaning that if someone went through the hassle/effort of responding to my comment then chances are it’s not an opinion type deal and more of either I wasn’t clear or there was a misunderstanding. (when the reply is opposing of course)


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    I’m not the person you responded to but, I also run with down-votes disabled. I found that paying attention to them was negatively impacting the platform and creating an echo chamber based off populous opinion. Since turning them off, my experience on the platform has been quite a bit more enjoyable. It’s not that I really have a mentality that is different than what the populous opinion is but, I much prefer not seeing them as it removes the potential of “oh this post has been downvoted” because that makes you go into reading it with an already poisoned mindset.





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    5 months ago

    One of our cats will constantly be at your feet, like to the point where you’re almost tripping on her, And if you’re laying down, she will sit at the side of the bed, stare at you or pace between where you are on the bed and the door trying to convince you to get up to follow her. if you are close to the side of the bed she may stand on her hind legs like she’s walking to get in your face using the bed as a support it’s adorable when you aren’t trying to sleep.