At the square itself, not much, peaceful demonstrations that were peacefully dispersed.
Outside the square on the other hand there were violent clashes between the military (acting as riot police) and violent rioters.
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If you say so just doesn’t seem accurate to my experience.
It’s amazing how you people just simply can’t help yourself but be racist assholes.
Quite the impressive straw man you’ve built here. At risk of falling into a no true Scotsman, I have never seen anyone on here even approach implying China is perfect simply that criticism should be situated within the proper context of material reality and pushing back on the unfortunate tidlewave of nonsense many people seem to believe is true and valid criticism.
not being able to enjoy the antics of Winnie the Pooh.
Winnie the pooh isn’t banned? Outside of Shanghai Disney having an entire Winnie the pooh themed area go to any miniso and there’s literally hundreds of Winnie the pooh plushies and other branded stuff.
fascists
I don’t think you know what this word means
(Just to preface this I am neither and American nor a European)
If you had simply made that point you would have been taken more seriously than the nonsense hypothetical. However it is still a dumb point. Voting for the lesser evil over and over with no reservations is how you have gotten to where you are now. You should vote for things not against things. If you vote for the D fascist over the R fascist they’re still a fascist even if they’re nicer at home (plus that niceness will only last as long as there is no real threat posed by national movements).
“what if the world was made out of pudding” if you want people to take you seriously make a serious point instead thinking up nonsense hypotheticals.
This is the most 12 year old “what if” nonsense retort I’ve ever seen.
I don’t think this meme is even against voting, just against voting for fascists with a D next to their name over fascists with an R.
I enjoy my socialism with a dose of reality
Care to elaborate?
Could you name some privileges a Han Chinese person has that I don’t?
I have read Lenin, and if you think he is advocating for electing socialists to the bourgeois government as something to strive for in and of itself, you have completely misread him. Winning bourgeois elections is not the goal, or even in the same playing field as the goal, for communist electoral work. The goal is agitation: using elections to expose bourgeois democracy, spread an independent communist programme, and sharpen the working class’s understanding of the state’s class character.
This quote, and the invocation of Lenin in general, does nothing to strike against the criticism I was making. My criticism was not “organization is bad” or “a political party is unnecessary.” The opposite being obviously true. My criticism was that putting socialists into a bourgeois government does nothing to alter the class character of that government. The state remains bourgeois, and anyone entering it is forced to operate according to its rules, pressures, limits, and class function.
Again, a socialist entering a capitalist government does not make that government socialist. Rather, the socialist is pressured to act as a bourgeois minister in order to administer capitalism and get minor reforms through. The result is not the conquest of the bourgeois state by socialism, but the partial conquest of the socialist by the bourgeois state.
Lenin was arguing for an independent proletarian party capable of organizing the working class for a determined struggle against the whole of capitalist society. He was not arguing for socialists to measure power by how many seats they win inside capitalist institutions, still less for tailing a reactionary party such as the Democratic Party (which the DSA appears quite fond of, which can be seen in their actions, such as the recommendation to vote for Graham Platner: another campaign inside the Democratic Party, another refusal to break from its shadow, another retreat from building a truly independent working-class party.).
DSA candidates are beholden to the demands of the working class, not the Democratic or Republican party nor capitalist donations.
A socialist entering a capitalist government does not make that government socialist. The government’s class function remains bourgeois, and the socialist is pressured to act as a bourgeois minister in order to get their (generally minor) reforms through.
Additionally, electing candidates to deliver material gains is only a single aspect of DSA. Along with mutual aid, labor organizing, and International solidarity campaigns to name a few
Not really related to the criticism I was making at all.
You should look up who has control of the South Korean military.
Many Amerikans were retroactively targeted in the 50s during the redscare for doing things like sending money to communists in Spain to fight the fascists.
You know so little about China but you speak with such authority it’s pretty amazing. Non mandarin speakers are not oppressed it is simply the state language used to make administration easier. If you ever went to a large minority area you would see all the signs in both the local and common language. Speaking to me about how my government is secretly oppressing me (rural minority Chinese) is white saviour nonsense.
I understand now that you’re a hate the government not the people white saviour type who doesn’t care about the fact our government is democratically elected and widely supported. You’re just finding new ways to be disparaging and racist. Please block me you racist cracker.
Many things, but the 2 biggest groups student groups protesting peasants needs being prioritised and hardline gang of four supporters protesting reform and opening up.
Hard to pinpoint the exact starting incident but most evidence points to a US backed student group lynching a member of the PLA. You should also listen to the Chai Ling interview where she talks about her groups goal of causing bloodshed and causing a government response before she fled with US intelligence agency help.