Damn you got really mad at someone for saying that they are interested in why pro-state socialists feel that way and want to learn. Why does someone wanting to learn make you so angry? Maybe because you’re closed minded and refuse to listen and learn in the slightest?

Someone with as much obvious privilege as you, who wields it in conversations freely, calling others priviledged for the mere act of engaging with people who think differently than them is quiet rich.

ETA: I think you need to maybe think about introspecting instead of lashing out when someone accuses you of being a priviledged white gay westerner “pulling up the ladder”. Because that is a quiet common phenomenon (see men like Pete Buttigieg for example). White gays who aren’t poor saying “ok, we won marriage equality, dont care about the rest of it” is very frequent and you ARE acting like that in this thread.

As an anarchist you should agree with “marriage is a patriarchal institution” since that take was pretty much invented by anarchists.

I’m not a Christian, but one of the things I’ve always felt Jesus was really on point on was when he said “take the beam out of your own eye before taking the speck of dust from your neighbors”.

I think this can be applied to geopolitics very well, even if you think the other country has the beam and you have the speck of dust, its still advisable to focus on your own countries problems. Its hypocritical not on a personal level, but on a national level. To use a non Christian phrase, its throwing stones in a glass house. Idk what specific country you’re from, but unless its China you can’t do much about China’s issues with queer rights, so why focus on them? Focus on wherever you’re from.

Like literally the only thing a Westerner can “do about” Chinese queer rights issues is encourage war/regime change, which you should know does not have a good record of working out for the effected country. And thats the problem we communists have when people start talking about China’s problem. We know our countries want regime change in China, so we see this shit as supporting of that. Its basically a threat.

Have you ever criticized someone for looking at the issue through a very eastern lense or is that reserved for people you deem as western-enough?

No, I haven’t, because I’m a westerner lol. Like I said, I focus my criticisms at home.

They didn’t get explicit permission, but they also didnt get shut down.

Also, the “filmed without permission” is weird phrasing anyway. Does every indy movie in other countries get explicit permission from the government to be filmed? A Wiki article for, say, an Australian indy movie about queer people that covers Australian oppression of the indigenous wouldn’t go out of its way to mention “the government didn’t give permission for it to be filmed” because why would it? The government doesn’t need to approve such project. Including the “government didnt give permission” feels like editorializing to make things sound more sinister then they are.

Didnt say it was a government event. Said the governemnt would implicitly have had to allowed it to happen, or it wouldn’t have. Or at least, thats what people who think the Chinese government is an all powerful oppressive force would say. Which is my point.

ETA: Like the fact that a festival like that exists AT ALL, in the nation’s capital, proves that the government isnt an evil opressive anti-queer regime that people paint it as.

Nope! And thats bad. But marriage equality is not the only measure of queer rights. Queer people in China are largely left alone and not hate crimed and speaking as a queer I’d rather get to be alive than get married.

China absolutely needs to work on its legal rights for queer people. I’m not saying otherwise. But you are still looking at the issue through a very western lense, and a hypocritical one considering how recently queer rights have even been begun to be accepted in the west. And how fast we are moving backwards on them in America especially. And how bad issues like homeless queer youth still are.

Peking University

In Beijing

Sounds like the oppressive Chinese government allowed them to show the movie.

Technically its not “in hexbear” because its another lemmy instance, we can just see it. If you dont want to, change your main page to local.

Some people like the opportunity to dunk, and federation has brought some comrades over to our side. Others do not like the change in culture. Personally I change my mind on it depending on my mood.

Won’t realize anything. When I showed this article to my liberal friend he doubled down and said that while civilian deaths were unfortunate, it was a proportional response to Kim invading the South and compared it to Hitler invading Poland. Its veryt rare that shit like this gets through.

Seriously like. Even the absolute worst dubious, unproven accusations of what the DPRK’s “Crimes” are pale in comparison to what the US and allies did to them. And thats just their crimes against Korea.

Fascism is when media tells me the country is evil bad country. What? Fascism has a definition and the DPRK doesn’t come even close to fitting it? Bah, impossible. Trustworthy Sources (social media echo chambers) told me that Kim is an evil bad dictator man.

Well according to a .world poster in this thread that you and I can’t see from our instance, the DPRK has slaves. But don’t worry, this won’t happen because a lemmy.ca user thinks that “Letting that many foreigners into North Korea would be a PR disaster for the Country.”

The consequences of federation.

Yeah the only things that changed for me much for the pandemic was masking when I grocery shopped, extra SNAP, and the stimulus payments.

The secret is to barely go outside.

I mean I have grocery shopped one a week the whole time but I’ve literally not been sick, not even with a cold, this whole time (and I used to get colds all the time). I didnt even mask for awhile there though I decided to start again because of the surge and the fear of long covid.

kim jon um

lol

ETA: Also gotta love the “they’re looking to NORTH KOREA for help” as if this is an obviously and on its face evil bad terrible thing to do.

I don’t think assholishness is necessarily a bad thing, it’s value-neutral.

Really depends on the context ie who you’re being a dick to and for what reason.

Like we had a “dont be a dick to your comrades” rule for a reason, for example.

I’ve seen the backlash to “let people enjoy things” lead to some behavior I’d consider fairly toxic in its own right. I bring up the minors thing because they tend to be the most passionate about fandom stuff, and I see grown ass adult grumpy shitheads harassing them for liking inoffensive things. Which I think is kind of the source of that attitude.

“Let people enjoy things” for me isn’t about “don’t criticize things people like”. Its about “dont go out of your way to do targeted harassment towards people over things they like”. I mean there are obvious exceptions like streamers who streamed wizard game, but even things like that can cross into harassment.

Like, if you check my post history i’m literally currently dealing with a mod of a wrestling forum who’s so obsessed with bunny cop that he has alerted both his politics and how he moderates around that fact, and claims its because Judy is his comfort character. So OBVIOUSLY I think people can become to obsessed with their things and make it part of their identity in a self-warping way. And that those people can use “let people enjoy things” as a shield for that behavior.

But I think there’s a middle ground here because if you think “I’m allowed to criticize things” cant be used as a shield for toxic behavior as well, you’re wrong.

I wasn’t accusing you of it. We aren’t in DMs right now. It was a general statement about something I think is true, that people can use "criticizing things’ as a guise for assholishness and even bigotry. Not saying you’re doing that.