deliriousdreams
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deliriousdreams@fedia.ioto
Comic Strips@lemmy.world•[meta] Please ban comics by bigoted artists
2·1 month agoThere’s at least two, which I know for certain because someone else saw this post and decided to post two Jago comics back to back.
Blocking those two accounts doesn’t do anything to fix the main problem which is that certain content is not tolerable here and the current way this community and Lemmy at large works doesn’t account for and cannot combat this.
You assume no further filtering is needed but when someone else starts posting the comics or the person who is blocked decides to change accounts and continue posting etc this becomes ineffective.
I suggested in another comment that making a rule about using the other filtering systems we do have (by using the comic name and author name in the title) we might be able to get around just banning said comics all together, but at the end of the day I really do feel like comics that are used to spread hatred are probably something that shouldn’t be allowed specifically because they cause damage in multiple ways to a community.
If you don’t know the Nazi bar analogy then you clearly are missing part of the story but if you do and you think we can avoid becoming the Nazi bar in this scenario by wearing headphones or blindfolds then I don’t think you’re being realistic.
deliriousdreams@fedia.ioto
Comic Strips@lemmy.world•[meta] Please ban comics by bigoted artists
2·1 month agoBy definition that same freedom of speech can be used as retaliation. Nobody should be able to attack someone else and expect them not to defend themselves.
It is because such an idea of speech free from retaliation exists that the parodox of tolerance also exists.
Speech is never likely to be free from consequences. That is exactly why we have diplomacy.
deliriousdreams@fedia.ioto
Comic Strips@lemmy.world•[meta] Please ban comics by bigoted artists
1·1 month agoThe reason the sexism in Jago comics is “just something to roll your eyes at” is specifically because it’s been tolerated ins society for so long that we do not view it as problematic. By contrast the anti-trans hate presented in those same comics is much newer to a lot of people so it seems worse by comparison. Both are examples of marginalized groups being attacked or misrepresented by someone with bigoted views and I am surprised you could write such a long comment on the topic without actually coming to an understanding about that.
deliriousdreams@fedia.ioto
Comic Strips@lemmy.world•[meta] Please ban comics by bigoted artists
1·1 month agoDoes that mean the rhetoric he spread and the potential for it to do harm are gone?
Let me ask you this. There’s a whole lot of people who really really hate JKR. She’s a bigot and She’s done a lot of real life harm, so regardless of whether or not her art is not connected to that harm, the point is that lots of people are in favor of completely deplatforming her by pretty much any means necessary including harassing other people who they even think might be interested in her art enough to give her money.
Do you think that they will change their minds about buying into her franchise after she’s dead?
deliriousdreams@fedia.ioto
Comic Strips@lemmy.world•[meta] Please ban comics by bigoted artists
2·1 month agoHow do you suggest we do that with the current way that tagging and content filtering works on Lemmy?
We can block things in text by keyword. However, we don’t really have a proper tagging system on Lemmy. If the comic doesn’t have attribution in text form (in the title or elsewhere in the post body) then it doesn’t help to block the author’s name or pseudonym.
deliriousdreams@fedia.ioto
Comic Strips@lemmy.world•[meta] Please ban comics by bigoted artists
15·1 month agoYeah. There’s a particular person in these comments claiming we can just block things we don’t like but who doesn’t seem to realize that this doesn’t work without some sort of tag system or artist name in the title.
Almost two year old account woke up and chose violence today, huh?
So, ban evasion or are you just doing this to get a rise out of people a la Beep because you took offense to the Meta post?
Strong woman. Farm?
Throw up your hands and wring them then instead of being proactive toward what you want. If all you’re here for is to complain, good riddance.
I’m not a mod. Literally have never been a mod. Pretty sure I can’t be trusted to be a mod.
At any rate what I’m trying to say is other people might also report the comments if you link to them and call them out.
If you want action, that’s how you get it. But the rhetoric you’re spewing turns people who might otherwise be on your side (against Israel for what they are doing in Palestine), and nobody gets anything done by themselves.
Thank you for taking on the task. We (mostly) appreciate it.
There have been at least three different mods who have responded to you. Which one are you calling biased.
More importantly (from the standpoint of moderation tools being pretty elementary to non-existent here on Lemmy), can you link to the individual comments?
My best guess is that the user who you spoke to reported your comments which is why they were all removed.
But with a backlog of over 300 reports when the mods are essentially volunteers, they can’t read the entirety of every conversation in order to find fault with comments that weren’t reported.
So, if the comments were bad enough that you feel they should be removed, please report them.
And stop with the all caps and the “Zionist” stuff. I don’t like genocide and don’t agree with Israel on most things but it’s hard to take you seriously when you sound like you’re raving.
You did, actually. The very last panel of the comic is missing (the panel that puts all the other panels together into a singular image). It’s there in the source post (which I’m still pissed I had to go to reddit to verify).
He still cropped the title of the comic. And believe me when I say it was on purpose. Repeat offender and all that.
I don’t disagree. But Lemmy doesn’t have the same kinds of mod tools as other platforms like reddit. So it’s up to us to report behavior that’s against the rules, and even then it’s up to the mod to be active in the community so they know what’s going on. There isn’t an algorithm or automod to fall back on and the mod of the comics community is … absentee at best.
There are a lot of people who will continue to support this user either because they don’t know the user was removing attributions from the stuff they repost, or because this one doesn’t do that so it’s okay.
Giving them any support will cause them to continue that behavior (and they will continue to break the 2 post limit on this community).
deliriousdreams@fedia.ioto
Comic Strips@lemmy.world•Should there be a rule against removing credits?
17·2 months agoI think that deliberately removing credits should be against the rules but if they try to link back to the artist to give attribution in the event that the comic has already had attribution removed I would be okay with that so long as the rest of the work is intact. The individual who’s been shown to be using AI to remove watermarks and artist signatures really ought to receive a suspension or something both for their ridiculous post rate (far exceeding the new rule about 2 posts per day), and also because they admit to removing attibution on purpose.
deliriousdreams@fedia.ioto
Comic Strips@lemmy.world•[META] Fuck ads: I recommend adding a rule to ban watermarked comics here
12·2 months agoFabolous out here for years spelling out his name in every song, and here you are just lying.
I live on a street that’s got two roundabouts. It’s a residential area and people really don’t know how to use them. If you don’t signal, nobody knows what you’re doing. Please signal. I’m begging you. It’s not that hard.