That’s a good point too, it shouldn’t be held to the standard of a legal document yet. I watched the video and definitely did that - forgetting its initiative nature. I think it could be helpful to specify the scope a little more so it doesn’t suffer from scope creep later and get nothing done, as well as bring some focus to the future discussions. But I’m reading some good points in this thread, and I’m curious to see where it goes. Fingers crossed!

Good videos, I enjoyed both of them. The initiative comes from a good place but could use a little more work before being brought to gov’t, if that’s the best place for it.

The first video does address this idea - time stamped for convenience. Basically it’s starting the wrong conversation, without enough nuance to a group of people that may not understand the nuance of the gaming industry. Could end up with more bad than good, as gov’t has done by accident before. I recommend a watch of those two videos, I probably haven’t summed it up very well and out of context clips aren’t necessarily a good representation either. PirateSoftware’s a good speaker imo, easy to listen to.

Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of the questions though, if you were to forget your password? I answer with nonsense too, just keep it in my password manager or write it down somewhere.

You’re definite not wrong, I actually went to use “!=” first. But then thought if someone wasn’t familiar with programming they might not get it, so I went with the “=/=” hoping it would make sense to more people. Forgot that we’re on lemmy and the audience here would generally understand lol. Didn’t know ≠ existed though, will probably use that from now on. Nice!

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Frankly this catch phrase never made any sense to me, from a logical point of view.

It assumes that:

1. If buying = owning then pirating* = stealing, because you own it without buying.

2. And if buying =/= owning then pirating =/= stealing, because you can’t own it otherwise.

But the justification in the second statement is completely irrelevant to the first statement. You still own it without buying. It’s still stealing.

UNLESS - we examine what “stealing” is. This is where the arguments about being in a digital space vs. a physical space comes in. Where the question is raised: Is making an exact copy really “stealing”? Or, consider what is being “stolen”? The original item? The idea? We need to think about this more.

But it’s here the argument should be made and here the debate should be. That’s where “pirates” have a chance of winning. Let’s get rid of this flawed, easily repeatable, but fundamentally incorrect catch phrase and come up with a better one already. One that makes sense.

*(Nevermind that most of you technically aren’t even pirating, you’re just downloading the fruits of someone else that pirated.)