wonderingwanderer

Classic

But do they know why six was afraid of seven?

You made it old when you said it. Could you imagine your own parents making 420 jokes?

It’s not even a strawman, that’s literally what the post is about and what some people are defending…

Fuck off dude, don’t you have any hobbies besides talking shit to white people? Fuck. I’m not the one going around telling people their skin color makes them bad people, but after talking with you I’m kinda inclined to not give a shit anymore the next time anyone talks about racial justice.

Like, fuck you, I tried doing my part, but if all I can expect for the rest of my life is assholes like you telling me it’s not enough, then fight your own damn battles. But stay out of the way when people are protesting against the fascists in power because quite frankly no one gives a fuck if you’re upset that people are angry about white people getting murdered.

“Get fucked with your white victim complex. White people are so fragile. White people this, white people that” You’re sure displaying a lot of open hatred for white people for someone claiming white people can never be done wrong. I guess hypocrisy and double standards are okay for anyone who isn’t white?

As much as I hate JD Vance and am reluctant to back anything that he says, you’re kind of proving his point about the whole “White people shouldn’t have to apologize for being white” thing.

I never denied that systemic racism or white privilege exist, but attacking individual white people for the original sin of having fair complexion is not dismantling systemic racism, and white privilege isn’t some absolute thing that transcends social class.

Everyone defending this comic has been doing so by distorting any arguments against it into strawmen by misrepresenting what people are saying in criticism of it. Your comment is no different.

So you can, hopefully, understand when POCs vent their frustration from time to time when the needle of political will in this country seems to only ever shift when enough white people are caught in the blowback. Hell, white allies fucking realize this.

How do you rectify that statement with the enormous turn-out to the BLM protests in 2020? Or are you just going to continue to ignore any facts that contradict what you’re saying?

How do you explain the enormous No Kings protests that happened before Renee Good or Alex Pretti were murdered?

You’re not going to have any white allies left if you keep calling them racist every time they protest after a white person gets murdered by the feds.

You get your head out of your ass. It’s not abrasive to you because you aren’t white. That’s the same logic as a white person saying a comic mocking BLM “isn’t even that abrasive.” You’re incapable of hearing and considering other people’s perspective, so I don’t want to hear you complaining about how supposedly callous white people are when literally millions of white people have been quietly listening to the perspectives if POCs for at least half a decade now, and getting called racist if they even chime in with the slightest input or nuance.

Am I thin-skinned? Then maybe you’re being thin-skinned if you’re so upset about white people protesting. See how that works? How easy it is to attack someone’s character based solely on them being a different race from yourself? If you don’t like it happening to you, then don’t do it to others. Otherwise you’re just normalizing racism. If you’re saying it’s okay for literally anyone but white people to be racist, then your same logic can be used by white people to justify being racist. That’s the thing about double-standards: they’re not binding because they’re not universalizable.

If you want this whole thing to be a race war, just say so. But if it’s about ordinary civilians against a fascist government, then stop holding people’s fucking skin color against them.

At least there’s someone out there with a working brain still. Sometimes it feels like there isn’t, but I know that’s just an illusion. It can be exhausting to deal with, though. Thanks for leaving a comment.

If people getting upset about others making generalizations about their race is being “fragile,” then I don’t want to hear a fucking soul complaining about racism when it’s directed at them.

Imagine if someone in 2020 said “lol, fucking fragile black people man…”

Cause that’s exactly what you’re doing. But I don’t expect you to have any self-awareness, because you’re probably ideologically committed to the bit where it’s impossible to be racist against white people.

I don’t need to go very far out of my way to tell that this post is clearly directing some racially-charged micro-aggressions towards white people, but if you’re so stuck in your worldview that white people can never be done wrong and it’s okay to treat them in all the ways that you yourself would never tolerate being treated, then I guess we’re not going to find any middle ground…

“non racists don’t get upset when you call them racist” fuckin a

I guess it’s too much to expect you to do any introspection, when you can always just blame white people for everything

It’s called subtext, and it’s not subtle.

Everything you’re asserting is false, but if you’re just going to call me racist then I’ll just fuck off and when everyone else who’s been upset about ICE stops caring because you’re calling them racist and they fuck off too, good luck standing off with ICE when a large portion of the country isn’t on board with you because you called them all racist for getting upset about you making broad generalizations about them based on their race.

I’m simply pointing out that people have been aware of the problem and upset about it for a long time. But that’s inconvenient to the narrative you’re trying to push, so you keep ignoring it whenever I mention that.

The problem with the comic isn’t that it pointed out that there have been more than just two murders. The problem is that it painted an entire race of people (who have diverse worldviews and opinions) with the same broad brush, and uses that generalization to create a strawman argument, i.e. “white people don’t care when non-whites get murdered,” and you continue to refuse to acknowledge that not only is that counter-factual, but it’s also counter-productive (and racist).

And then you not-so-subtly insinuate that I must be racist if I have a problem with it? You’re so transparent.

Okay well if you’re just gonna make strawmen and deflect any counterexamples with “well those just don’t count because that’s not what I’m talking about” then we’re not going to get anywhere.

I guess everyone should just pack up and go home, because it’s so offensive that people are out protesting after some white people died. Hey everybody, it’s actually racist if you’re protesting against the regime right now. I learned that on lemmy.

Fuck’s sake.

There’s always an increase in volume after an incident like this. The more visible it is, the greater the increase.

If you’re upset about an increase in momentum, then you’re kinda shooting the movement in the foot and that makes me question what your intentions are. Maybe you simply haven’t thought it through; I’m not gonna assume you’re a bad-faith actor planted to disrupt the resistance on so little evidence.

The problem is that this comic paints with a very broad brush, and it kinda leaves any white person who’s been actively protesting with no choice but to say “Well fuck me, then.”

But they were upset sooner. All of you keep making the same circular argument, “People should have already been upset!” They fucking WERE! How many times does that need to be said?

Making sweeping generalizations about all white people is not “pointing out systemic racism,” it’s just racism. If you get offended by this then you’re telling on yourself.

Except for the simple fact that a lot of people already have been upset for a long time.

The comic assumes that people are just now getting upset. If that’s your take every time a victim happens to be white, then that says more about you than it does about me.

The subtext is glaringly obvious, and pretending not to see it is disingenuous at best.

Accusations in a mirror. Go check yourself.