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    “Public opinion exists only where there are no ideas.”- Oscar Wilde.

    I think public opinion is overrated. Too many fools in the public. Just look at MAGA idiots in US.

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      I believe public opinion is fairly left leaning. Just looks how popular Bernie and AOC are. It’s just that corporate media discourse is very good at suppressing left wing views.

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        You can describe socialist and communist policies and people generally love them. You just can’t use those thought terminating trigger words.

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            there is technique and whole ideologies and entire categories of political theory in the left all literally dedicated to taking control off oligarchs and implementing it with varying levels of irl success.

            there is more to the left of liberals and they address a bunch of these things.

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              In Nordic countries, they do have something along the line. Although it ended up being democratic socialism, which is left-center instead of far-left authoritarian.

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                The Nordics aren’t Socialist in any capacity, heavy industry and large firms are squarely in the Private Sector, and they earn the bulk of their income from acting essentially as a landlord in country form, from predatory IMF loans.

                Moreover, all Socialism is democratic in some form, the idea that there is a niche of Socialism that alone is Democratic is a misnomer. Democratic Socialism is better described as Reformist Socialism.

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          That comes from dishonest politicians and media, who twist things for their benefit. They frame certain acts like they are coming for your 2 chickens, when in reality, they are coming for a rich fucks’ 100000 chickens. Such people have a vested interest in fooling the people with 2 chickens. Hence, they campaign by equating such measures with ‘scary’ words like ‘communism’. Propaganda works. These kinds of tricks are bread and butter of advertising industry. So why not politicians and media?

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        What I mean is taking the opinion of the public seriously. I mean, people believe in a lot of weird things and that includes me. As an example, lot of people are anti-vaxxers, that doesn’t actually make vaccines dangerous. Should their opinion matter? If so, how much?

        I think the quote is meant to consider that sometimes we must ignore public opinion and do what is right. But, I agree some nuance could be lost. But sadly, the quote has no context because it is from a list of quotes Oscar Wilde wrote. Maybe, we should supply our own nuance.?

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          Only works if you’ve got the “right” politicians in place. Right now there’s a guy in power doing just that in the US and you see what it looks like.

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    So this was paid for and published by Commintern, The Communist International, also known as the Third International which operated from 1919 to 1943. This was published in the 1930s while Joseph Stalin was in charge.

    The fact that some people would post this unironically when the person who sent this message was notorious for the iron-fucking-curtain is beyond stupid.

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      Thank you for the context. The desperation about current (fascist) extreme-right politics really makes some people swing so hard towards the left they just end up with another flavour of fascism.

      (I know the horseshoe theory is garbage, please don’t @ me about it)

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      On the other hand, could you also argue that dismissing something out of hand because the person who made it worked for a publication that aligned itself with a philosophy that was being used by a country that was being led by a bad man, well, kind of stupid too?

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        Maybe instead of leaning on the message of fascists you could express your concerns in some other way. One that doesn’t degrade yourself in the process. Like making your own comics with your own words.

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          The communists werent fascist, they were communist.

          I didn’t think I’d need to say that but here we are.

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            The 1930s USSR was squarely under the rule of Joseph Stalin, a brutal dictator. It was a time of mass starvation and persecution.

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              Authoritarian is not fascism. It is a component, but communism and fascism are not even close to synonymous.

              There was one famine from mismanagement, and Stalin wasn’t a great guy but this shit is really overblown.

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                The USSR was a fascism because it was a central dictatorship with violent tendencies. The actual definition of the term.

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                  That’s not the definition of the term, by any ones analysis. The simplest, original definition is that fascism is state and corporate power combined. Like the US has been for half a century.

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                I’m surprised the comments seem to be defending authoritarianism like it’s any more acceptable than fascism. “Stalin may have had millions of people killed and fueled the negative reputation of communism world wide for nearly a century, but at least he wasn’t a fascist.”. I don’t seem to understand why democratic social ownership is considered a worse alternative than letting a centralized tyrannical government harm people unchecked.

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                  “shooting a home invader and killing the neighbor next door are both violent killings, so we should classify them both as murder” - you, probably.

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      Not only are you completely wrong about what fascism is, you are arguing that since the Comintern, an international committee, published a political cartoon, that Stalin personally made and published it single-handedly. This is stupid, there is no way that Stalin could personally run around and do everything the government did in the Soviet Union. That would be a practically superhuman feat.

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    IIUC,

    the US had/has a Communist party, and you could probably sell copies of Pravda;

    while the USSR had no liberal party, and it’s doubtful you could have a copy of the NYT.

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    With every person dedicated to getting more people onto Better Platforms, Linux Distros, Fediverse, ActivityPub, and ATProtocol apps that just shines the light more and makes it a lot harder for anyone to spread lies or project their “power”

    Linux Distros for Desktop:

    Linux Mint Pop!_OS (Should be called Cosmic OS, sounds better) Fedora Workstation Asahi Fedora Remix

    Mobile Android Alt Distros:

    LineageOS GrapheneOS

    For Fediverse Apps:

    Mastodon PeerTube Lemmy Diaspora Sup

    For ATProtocol Apps:

    Bluesky Flashes Spark

    Let’s spread the word ladies and gentlemen!!

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      I got banned from Reddit for suggesting doing what the French did. I got banned for that suggestive language despite a corporation having no qualms in harboring actual Nazi’s who spread their message through loose doublespeak.

      Free speech is not a right on social media, especially a privately owned forum that wants you to stay longer on their site for advertisement money.

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        Its a good thing we have ActivityPub (Lemmy, etc), & ATProtocol (Bluesky, etc)

        They both are making huge strides for the better. Heres the Bluesky CEO video about what they are doing. The Bluesky CEO is also the one in charge of the ATProtocol itself. Crazy cool she and her team did both:

        https://www.youtube.com/live/B7OwcXCE5Rg

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    A stalinist comic about freedom of the press. Do you have one about the futility of mustaches, too?

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    pretty sure there’s plenty of socialism online, I don’t think the capitalists are hiding people from that.

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      They just spend billions of dollars making sure Joe Rogan is on every from page and in a favorable spot in the algorithm.