Oh look an anti-vegan circlejerk.
Do the “how do you know someone’s vegan? They’ll tell you” joke next. I promise it doesn’t come off as insecure.
Those lame jokes make me wanna mention the Vegan Bullshit Bingo.
Free Space really should be “Where do you get your protein?”
Thank you for this!
cheese is too tasty
yeah, I’m not sure about that
Oh look, you just told everyone what you eat. Joke’s on you.
How do you know someone hates vegans? They’ll tell you.
Begone vegan
I’ve kept chickens. They do not understand the family concept. Roosters will happily rape their siblings or their mothers, and hens will enforce a gruelling pecking order even if it means someone dies of hunger/beatings 😢
And that makes it okay for humans to abuse them in even more brutal ways?
Or what are you saying?
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I wonder if they would do the same free in the nature. Locked together in tight spaces and restricted freedom will change the behaviour of every creature.
This is the default behaviour for chickens. I can’t think of any chicken like creatures that exists in the wild that resembles. The chickens I kept had plenty of room both inside and outside. Outside was a predator proof fence around a large area with different kinds of vegetation, bushes and wet and dry environments (I also had a couple of mallards). Inside they had running water, things to climb on to roost, and various boxes to lay and sleep in. Every week I cleaned their living quarters and threw down fresh bedding. They were not for food or for egg production. I ate and gave away the eggs they laid.
Edit: to keep the roosters from doing the dirty with close relatives, I swapped rooster with other people that kept poultry as a hobby
yea i do the same with mine, they roam free in the garden during the day and have a protected outdoor and indoor area so its basically a large playground for them and still the behavior you mentioned is what i see as well. also chickens in the wild? the measures i had to take to keep my chickens safe from foxes, martens, cats, dogs… is just crazy, they have zero defense capabilities so i dont know how they survived ubtill we kept them as livestock
This all reminds me I miss having chickens and ducks. One of the bad sides living in a big city for work, I guess
i love my chickens, they eat all my scraps and weeds from the garden, fertillize my garden, fresh eggs every day which i trade with neighbors for his surplus veggies or a a batch of waffles. its a nice way to live
Chickens originated from the red jungle fowl which is a much leaner and flighted bird (as are certain breeds of chicken) We’ve made modern chickens into something that can’t survive in the wild, much like we turned wolves into pugs!
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Red junglefowl are undomesticated chickens.
Ever heard of domestication?
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So you consider humanity superior in morality to chickens right? Which means that you identify the horrible things they do as horrible, and deem them unacceptable and definitely shouldn’t be repeated by a being of supposed higher intellect and control over one’s own actions beyond simple instincts?
Seems like an even better argument against eating other animals and especially, especially industrialized factory farming if you ask me, where everything you said is still done, but by humans to the chickens.
Big logical gaps in this argument:
The op never said they were superior morally.
Even, given the above, the op deemed chickens immoral that does not make all chickens’ actions immoral. Preening, roosting and eating grain are not immoral activities.
Defining only the horrible acts as horrible is a circular argument as no definition has been provided as horrible.
Other than those three, you really stuck it to the carnist, chief.
Yep. I’ve seen hens scalp their own chicks because they were a different colour from the others.
Hahhahaha PETA bad amiright?? Updoots to the left!!
I mean I’m just saying, banning meat lobby shilling and boomer tier animal abuse memes is morally good. Would be pretty based mod. Idk. They can get shit on in the thread for sure but I wouldn’t mind not seeing the brain rot 🤷♂️
Yea, screw this kind of stuff.
Most people on here will know vegetarians or in some cases be one. It’s a respectable choice that takes a lot of willpower and energy. People who make fun of that aren’t my crowd. Mostly because it’s a dick thing to do.
Yes, let’s start censoring people based on morality. That has never ever gone wrong.
Yes let all the Nazis racists eugenicists etcetera run wild because we don’t want to censor based on morality 🥺🥺
Ah yes, Nazis hating
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chickens?
A) I don’t have to equivocate. Killing humans isn’t the same as killing a chicken. We agree. The point is obvious. Moderation exists for a reason. Discrimination and normalizing violence are things worth moderating. You’re either being intellectually dishonest in response or need to give it a little more thought.
B) Species difference aside, their experience at scale is by definition a holocaust. 136 million will die today alone. They can’t grasp the scale as individuals, but they experience it personally. Believe it or not, some people value non-human life. Whether or not you do is not relevant given lack of moral justification.
Well, this escalated rather quickly…
Haha don’t be silly - most of the chicken’s family went into the chicken shredder to be turned into feed.
Wow, Hilarious! What an enormous penis OP must have to make jokes just so fresh and unexpected! Huge, definitely not-high-school sized, manly penis!
4edgy2me
KFC’s newest disclaimer: Family Bucket does not mean the entire family of chickens are in the same bucket.
Yeah fuck this comm. It’s all I see when I open Lemmy, and the jokes really are just boomer humor.
You can block communities
It’s a joke. Lighten up.
Also, label it what you want, but I’m a millennial.
This is why it’s important to order the nuggets too.
Trolling will continue until die-hard vegans stop treating all meat as corn fed beef.
Why is memes a back and forth of vegan vs anti vegan. Make your own damn communities. So damn tiresome to see the same comment thread every day in a different post.
Right?! This was just a low-effort repost to get some laughs. It actually ended up making me laugh hard today with how ridiculous it’s gotten.
Personally, I just think the moral middle ground would be to be the person that slaughters and butchers the animals you eat. It would allow the most respect for all parties imo.
Look, PETA is not exactly the model organization they think they are. Actually they have plenty of issues and hypocrisy with their own messages and IMO are by no means a credible or reliable source. BUT, credit where credit’s due, their shitpost that everyone hated got more discussion from both sides on the realities of the meat industry than any whistleblower or researcher publishing a paper on the conditions of industrialized meat farming, its environmental and climate implications. More engagement from this than pretty much any measured response, analysis, or criticism of the meat industry or the ethics of eating meat that has ever come out. This thread is an example of that.
That might say more about the nature of internet culture and what people will actually respond to and engage with than anything else. Obviously in an ideal world everyone will engage way more with those whistleblower and scientific researcher findings and organizations like PETA wouldn’t even exist, and it would be the measured responses that will be the things triggering discussion on subjects like plant-based meat and veganism, probably a much more level headed discussion since that tend to be more dependent on the context of the discussion than the subject itself, and we really should be working toward that. But, I think that’s still a silver lining because we absolutely need to be having these discussions.
I think I saw my 67 year old aunt post this on Facebook.
