• Rediphile@lemmy.ca
    13·
    2 years ago

    Free will also isn’t real, but I don’t go around to people I know and care about trying to collapse their entire world view around it. Sometimes it’s better if people believe in fundamentally incorrect things that don’t impact others.

    Edit: here’s a crazy idea, if you think I’m wrong…that’s ok. Just leave me be? Maybe? Isn’t that the point of my entire initial comment. Lol.

      • Rediphile@lemmy.ca
        4·
        2 years ago

        It was relevant to this discussion as I’m saying I similarly wouldn’t bring this truth up with someone like my mother or similar as shown in the original post.

        My goal is not to convince anyone who feels differently, I just felt others could relate to my example. I will not provide any explanation unless specifically asked as my goal here is not to force my knowledge onto someone who doesn’t want it.

          • Rediphile@lemmy.ca
            3·
            2 years ago

            Sorry I triggered you. I was predestined to make the comment I made. This one too. Please choose to disengage if it would benefit you most.

            I’m always open to any evidence to change my position, I just never am presented with any.

              • Setarkus.LW@lemmy.world
                4·
                2 years ago

                Telling someone that their thought process is flawed/immature is not the same as being triggered. The amount of text contained in your answer is usually associated with “being triggered” though (at least in my experience)

                Then again, depending on what exactly one means with “triggered”, you could say that you’ve “been triggered” (like activating some mechanism or something) to write a long response :D

                (Not trying to join any side of the original discussion, just sharing what’s on my mind ^^)

              • Rediphile@lemmy.ca
                2·
                2 years ago

                Yes, that’s correct.

                I have answered the only question presented to me. The rest is you ranting aimlessly to feel better about your own position.

                I wish I had 1,000 more understanding though! If you have any legitimate evidence to provide that demonstrates I’m wrong, please share it. If not, shut the fuck up. Or don’t. It’s not in your control anyway.

                I would greatly appreciate it if you could meaningfully clarify what ‘truths’ I should take away from your comment and why.

        • yabai@lemmy.world
          5·
          2 years ago

          I think he’s trying to refute your claim that your will isn’t free. I.e. you made that comment of your own free will. Not literally asking why you made the comment.

          • Rediphile@lemmy.ca
            2·
            2 years ago

            I do not believe I had free will to make or not the comment. And this seems upsetting to many. So I suggest they just keep their world view if it benefits them.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 years ago

      If everything is predestined, whatever you choose is your destiny. Which means you get to choose your destiny. Even if the decision is already determined, your decision process is a part of that and whatever you decide is what becomes the future (or present). Predetermination is irrelevant unless it can be seen beforehand, but if it could, that knowledge could be acted on to change it. So either you can see the future and change it, or you can’t so there’s no functional difference between it being indeterminate.

      • Rediphile@lemmy.ca
        6·
        2 years ago

        I agree entirely with your comment and I experience the illusion of free will. I just recognize it’s an illusion.

    • MonkderDritte@feddit.de
      3·
      2 years ago

      If you define “free will” as individual processing of input based on your genetic makeup and past experiences/memories and circumstances, with some inherent randomness. Then i guess free will is real.