I don’t know if the CIA ever mingled with Chinese politics - I doubt it. But Africa, brah, we have a bad history of what the western world in general has done in that continent, whether directly or indirectly or proxies.
Technically, Western democracy. Pay attention to all the nations that are currently turning their backs on the U.S. and joining BRICS. Had the U.S., alone, not meddle with other nations, the U.S. wouldn’t be losing the petrodollar at this moment and wouldn’t be losing all the nations that have invested into the dollar. Now in the next 10 or so years… well, guess we’ll have to see the turnout. I can’t even speculate because it’s over my head.
No one claimed the west is perfect. The claim that other parts of the world are (or would be, if only that pesky west didn’t interfere) is, however, ridiculous.
Look. I’m a practical person who believes in evidence-based policy. I believe that we shouldn’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Now, is the Chinese system perfect? No, of course not - but it outperforms just about every western system in just about every way relevant to the average person, and that’s why I advocate for it over the systems we currently have in place.
Sure, you keep telling yourself that over the sound of denying the Tiananmen Square massacre, cozying up to Russia, everything about Taiwan, the Uyghurs and the sweatshops.
I’m just going to stay in Europe, if you don’t mind.
I don’t know if the CIA ever mingled with Chinese politics - I doubt it. But Africa, brah, we have a bad history of what the western world in general has done in that continent, whether directly or indirectly or proxies.
That’s a straw man, as I never argued that there were no western influences.
It’s at best naive to think that only western influences led to atrocities, though.
Oh I’m not saying, “only”. For example, the only, “democracy” in the Middle East - Israel, apparently is funding the killing of Armenian Christians.
Sea wat I did thar?
What you did there is derail the conversation from the fact that you claimed that “The West” is the only source of misery.
You’re a troll and I won’t engage further.
Technically, Western democracy. Pay attention to all the nations that are currently turning their backs on the U.S. and joining BRICS. Had the U.S., alone, not meddle with other nations, the U.S. wouldn’t be losing the petrodollar at this moment and wouldn’t be losing all the nations that have invested into the dollar. Now in the next 10 or so years… well, guess we’ll have to see the turnout. I can’t even speculate because it’s over my head.
They haven’t, but it’s not for lack of trying.
No one claimed the west is perfect. The claim that other parts of the world are (or would be, if only that pesky west didn’t interfere) is, however, ridiculous.
Look. I’m a practical person who believes in evidence-based policy. I believe that we shouldn’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Now, is the Chinese system perfect? No, of course not - but it outperforms just about every western system in just about every way relevant to the average person, and that’s why I advocate for it over the systems we currently have in place.
Sure, you keep telling yourself that over the sound of denying the Tiananmen Square massacre, cozying up to Russia, everything about Taiwan, the Uyghurs and the sweatshops.
I’m just going to stay in Europe, if you don’t mind.
Considering the people every European country just elected, I’m sure you’ll be quite happy there.
Ooooof…