https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16tqihd/settings_updateschanges_to_ad_personalization/
Reddit just decided it was a good idea to REMOVE the option to disable ad personalisation. Good job u/spez. We know what you’re doing.
Time for a new influx. Everyone still on reddit needs to advertise lemmy.
And not join-lemmy.org, that’s confusing. Just pick one of the larger servers like lemm.ee or fedia.io and tell people to browse it and click “Sign Up” if they like it.
I’d recommend a smaller community to help spread the load. I originally signed up on .world but they were having some growing pains (And a disgruntled idiot ddosing them) so I moved to .ca which helped tremendously.
I really disagree. For learning lemmy for average people, big instance is best.
There is a point where people who stick around are likely to make a new “real” account on a different smaller server, after they know what they want to browse.
Basically big instances should be like training wheels.
Yeah tbh this is how I did it and I consider myself tEcH sAvVy - still started with .world because I didn’t know where else to go.
You need to know the special password for .ca
Is it “sorry”?
„Eh“
Dot see eh?
I’m Canadian anyway, so I have it memorized.
Hello Canadian, I’m maple syrup!
We may be related, I’m 40% maple.
I see! I’m actually 33% polar bear and 66% maple, we may be not so distant cousins!
I went to iusearchlinux.fyi and came back to .world about a week ago. It seems to be doing very well now.
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maybe start posting links from lemmy like what happened with digg (i think? wasn’t there for it)
Neat, so they are monetising your activities on the plattform. Isn’t that great?
Corporate does corporate things.
I’m more surprised that people are surprised by this…
I’m surprised you’re surprised that others are surprised… because no one is surprised about this.
For-profit company exploits userbase for profit. More at 11:00.
They’ve always been doing it, they’re just gonna stop hiding it now.
This really doesn’t sound legal.
I hope spez has good GDPR lawyers!
I was going to ask as well. Doesn’t it like infringe on a law madd by California or the EU or some shit?
Oh, okay. I had no idea. I was like “How far do I have to scroll to find out what reddit did this time?”
Wouldn’t affect me anyway, because I use an ad blocker.
It still means they’re selling your info to advertisers
I think this is the removal of the opt out of selling my data to advertisers?
Yup ads and posts on reddit are becoming even more indistinguishable, the “organic community” is just a selling point for marketing because you can embed yourself in it, basically just exploiting their users. The metrics to gauge ad performance is based on things that make the site shitty as well. Reddit, at least the big subs, haven’t been organic in this way for a long time, it’s basically a simulation of an organic online community at this point.
Why are these people still there, do they just stick around on reddit to complain about it?
Because other people are there
Network effects are real
Hating Reddit is the usual Reddit routine, the one you may be rewarded for with Reddit’s updoots.
I think the average person is not willing to take 5 minutes to figure out how Kbin or Lemmy works.
Kbin, at least, for the end user is just as simple as reddit.
Before I left Reddit, I searched for alternatives and saw that people recommended Lemmy or Kbin. But I didn’t know what those things were. I assumed they were just Reddit clones hosted by someone else. I didn’t know that I could create an account on Kbin and interact with other posts in the Fediverse. I didn’t even know what the Fediverse was. So I was stuck with this decision of “do I try Lemmy or Kbin first?”
When I decided to try Lemmy, the first thing you need to do is sign up on an instance. People recommended beehaw.org, but that required filling out an application to join. That seems weird, since I never had to apply to read Reddit. I decided to try another instance (sh.itjust.works) but was worried that I was missing out on what people had recommended about other instances. Maybe I chose the wrong one? Maybe I should make an account on Lemmy.world instead?
It took me a little while to grasp the concept of federation and realize that it made no difference as an end user which instance I chose. I stuck with it, as did everyone reading this, but I think it’s fair to say that the average person has similar barriers to entry. We’ve overcome them, but many, many people will not.
The app situation is getting much much better. The website UI is inferior to old reddit or the apps. I know some servers support the old reddit UI but it’s not discoverable. Stuff like expanding images needs to be easier to do instead of clicking a semi-hidden 10px square each picture.
Sync and Boost are great, though I’m still not happy with the iOS apps (I like Avalon and Mlem, but I don’t live either of them, whereas the Android apps feel fantastic).
Boost is lovely and polished and you can see that tons of work has gone into it.
Tell you what though: while I was waiting for Boost, damned if the Voyager (fka wefwef) PWA came out of nowhere with (I think) some of the nicest UX of any of the contenders, plus an insane release schedule because they can just push changes whenever. Voyager is honestly what has kept me here. (…he says, posting from Boost)
you joined early on, you had to work at understanding the fediverse. now there are plenty of places that explain everything.
True, the concept of the fediverse is probably what confuses people, it’s never explained clearly. I hope it’s growth helps spread information about it, how it works and why you want it.
They should come to Lemmy to complain about Reddit, like the rest of us.
reddit has ads?
Reddit is ads.
Yea, ublock always blocks them on old Reddit. So this technically won’t affect me.
I’m sure old.reddit is on its way out in the near future.
I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I’m one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - https://futurology.today/ ) It’s been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.
This is despite the fact we’ve permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.
For what it’s worth, I was on Reddit for over a decade and I think I clicked on a stickied thread from any subreddit maybe twice in that whole time. I think a lot of people’s eyes just automatically skip over them. Plus, stickied threads disappear under some sorting options. Posting the occasional meme about it might be more effective.
IIRC stickies are also excluded from feed once they get this attribute.
But yeah, we don’t even understand what a barrier switching to fediverse sites is for regular joes, jemmas and jermas. Like, for many people the internet is suggested apps’ feed and, rarely, their browser’s default start page. They don’t choose anything, and why would they? And here we are, challenging them to do something on intent while they are pretty happy with what they have now.
People who would leave a site like Reddit because of a principled stance often mistakenly believe that the rest of society cares as deeply as they. Spoiler: society mostly doesn’t care; at least, not enough to go out of their way to change anything.
I’m technically from elsewhere in the fediverse, but I’m also a Reddit migrant (back in June). Thank you for setting the community up, I’ve missed it from Reddit days
Just want to say that every time Reddit does something shitty like this, Lemmy will get a boost. And with Lemmy constantly getting better (both community and platform), I’m willing to bet these boosts come with smaller user drop offs every time.
Which is to say, keep up the good work Reddit!
At this point (and with Sync, as I used for reddit), Lemmy is indistinguishable from my reddit browsing experience. Except on Lemmy I don’t encounter constant hostility.
I don’t encounter constant hostility.
That sounds like something one of you people would say. 🖕/s
You can fuck right off with that attitude, mate.
/s
I’m not your mate, buddy
and my axe
I’m not your buddy, dude.
There are still few very niche/local communities here that I have seen, at least active ones. But that’s only because of the much smaller user base
There are a couple of communities I miss, like r/fountainpens and r/suzukisamurai. Im sure I could figure out how to create those communities, im not sure I’d be a good mod.
tbh there won’t be much to mod in niche communities. so don’t let that stop you.
You’re probably right, but I’d really hate to have to clean up a bunch of nazi shit from my nice family friendly Samurai circlejerk.
do you plan to post “nazi shit”?
Nope.
- I believe you would be
- you can always get better mods to help/take over in the future.
Be the change you want to to see in the world
i experience some hostility on lemmy, but i haven’t noticed any bots here cruising for karma.
I have gotten way more bans on lemmy so far, just for calling out tankies. Or simply enumerating the UN definition of genocide.
Lol lemmy has a Tankie problem but they’re being drowned out. They get mad because they can’t just own the libs I guess!
I’ve been lucky so far, but ever since leaving reddit I’ve been in an infinitely better mood. Sometimes reddit would bring out the worst in me as well, and I’d be short with people or needlessly confrontational. You could tell when I was in a shitty place mentally because my post history would shift from light-hearted and sentimental to easily annoyed with frequent cursing. Reddit’s algorithm really fine-tuned its way under my skin, and I found myself increasingly angry as the years went on. US political issues really got me going. I was never more irritable and mad at the world than I was over the past few years on reddit. Now all of that is just gone, and my Lemmy usage is about 20 minutes per day. I’m in a much better place.
I think the hostility is about the same tbh, only different is this place uses the term Tankies a lot more.
That’s because there are a lot more tankies
That and the impact. The amount of communism or total and complete anti capitalism without nuance or depth, right or wrong. Reddit was very left, but not like here!
Tankies aren’t communists anyway. They’re Russian trolls, CCP shills. Those are fascist dystopias. Just mention Ukraine being invaded and they go ballistic.
The quality of posts and comments overall isn’t where Reddit was. That comes with volume, though.
Also, I haven’t found a single niche community that does what Reddit did. For instance, if I’m into a specific show, Reddit was my go to place for discussions about a new episode. Lemmy does not have that for any show I watch.
Niche comes with volume too. And really, niche is what’s important, not the broad strokes (I’d argue the boons of Lemmy are broad strokes at least). Reddit is worse for a lot of reasons, but man oh man, how can you convince someone to come over when the value is in the volume? I’m still primarily on Reddit, actively contributing to the problem.
Startrek.website is alive and well
But I do see your point, from my local subreddit effectively nobody moved over, even my favorite mod who got backstabbed during the blackout stayed.
Well you might have to block the Linux spam but otherwise I agree.
The common reddit apps coming to lemmy also helps. People used to Boost, Sync, Infinity and others can finally browse lemmy on a known interface
What did they do this time?
You can no longer op-out for targeted advertising based on use habits (like if you visited canned sardines you could get ads about sardines on the canned sardines subreddit but not on cheatatmathhomework, now you could get ads about canned sardines in the math subreddit and about brilliant on the sardines one)
I wish I would get an ad for canned sardines, at least that’s something I’d consider buying.
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but also, with every influx it waters down the spirit of lemmy a tiny bit in exchange for more activity / content / perspectives. which generally is worth it so far, but even still i can already see some discussions on here getting worse, with shittier viewpoints i wish were quarantined in facebook
No it it also has the effect tof the people who dropped off probably won’t come back. Yah I tired it and it sucked. Lemmy blew it’s big chance. Yes it has grown but could have been bigger.
I don’t think it works that way. A free service like Lemmy can be tried multiple times. People aren’t just going to ignore something forever cause they tried it once and it sucked. People understand that software evolves over time.
You overestimate most people. “KDE is bad. Admittedly last time I tried it was 15 years ago” is a real quote that I read.
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I saw one that said they would stay until Reddit charges a fee to use the site…like why are they staying??? JUST FUCKING LEAVE
One even said “there are no viable alternatives” when talking about Reddit, like excuse me what the fuck?
I’ll probably get hate, but the content just isn’t there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I’d follow on Reddit just weren’t on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it’s just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn’t much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan
PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs
Honestly that’s been a bit of a plus in the sense I’m spending much less time scrolling mindlessly on my phone. Of course I’d prefer that reduced time to be of a higher quality but the pros outweigh the cons for me
yeah that’s honestly what I found as well. once I discovered you can patch RIF to use your own personal api token, I’ve been continuing to use reddit. it’s such a subpar experience compared to what it used to be tho
I’m surprised they let you use your own API token. During the API apocalypse, Spez specifically said that was “not allowed.”
It’s usable for bots and such, I’ve seen reports of some users getting banned for using it in patched clients when detected
I was banned several times. Now i moderate a private subreddit and it’s fine.
New communities, you’ll just have to yell into the void for a while until people start to yell back.
Ehh, I’ll just wait and check back in a few months or so.
Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times
I always assumed that since both upvote and downvote counters are visible, it won’t be the case. But boy I was wrong. The political/news posts are always a constant shitshow reminiscent of T_D.
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People forget how bad reddit was when we all moved from digg.com. It was bad. It would crash every other day.
Lemmy is far more mature than reddit was during the digg exodus.
I wasn’t an early adopter of Reddit, or Lemmy, but this sort of has the same issues of momentum as web browsers do. It doesn’t matter how they started. Where they are now is the standard, and that’s what you have to build to in order to be a viable replacement. With browsers it’s the capability to serve pretty much any page with all the bells and whistles, with Reddit/Lemmy it’s all the posts, comments, and user base. I think it can happen, but it won’t be easy or fast. I’m not worried, though. I think we can rely on spez to send more users this way until a suitable number of users have joined.
👍 100% agrreeeee I was there
I’m a trans woman here, and to be honest change of any kind is so scary that it is unbelievable. Like when I finally got approved for hormone, the prescription stayed at the pharmacy for like 2 or 3 weeks before eventually I decided to call a friend…
I knew that if I went myself I would probably just chicken out or maybe I’d pick them up and just put them aside somewhere, simply because I knew that there would be no going back. I didn’t even want to go back, but the fact that I couldn’t was still scary.
But my friend made me take them right then and there, as anybody would, as he always had a good ability to talk me out of my inhibitions.
It’s been about a decade since then and lemme tell you, life is better on two legs than three.
Hell I had been wanting a Reddit alternative for the longest time because the place was a shit hole from the beginning, but traditional online forums are dead.
It took a Perma ban from the whole site for me to make the switch, it’s going to come sooner or later, it’s a ban happy website it wasn’t even the first time.
Even then I felt like a criminal on the run.
PS: a bunch of right wing trolls have reported my account for threats of violence, simply because I said something about Star Wars that they didn’t like.
I got a permaban, and had to write an appeal letter to get them to look at what I actually posted to realize that there was not even the slightest hint of a threat there.
Ironically the second time was for abusing the report button, something that’s not even listed in their terms of service, because that was easier than actually looking at all of the bigoted things that I reported. I try appealing that too, but never got a response
I’m Trans and had no problems leaving reddit. It’s a cess pool full of bots, trolls and Rupert Murdocks goonies. Reddit would almost never side with the victim of bigotry and even punish the victim for reporting hate speech.
It’s garbage and I been gone for months now. Used that script to change all my posts then went back later and deleted each one manually.
Realest answer here. Truly a reddit moment
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I think because they are uninformed. They are looking for alternatives, and don’t know about Lemmy, or don’t understand Lemmy, etc.
It’s exactly this, I only found lemmy through a sticky comment inside a post 2 days ago, and I’ve been wanting to get off Reddit for months
Loki it might help if the special interest boards were more active, also the porn is way more well hidden here than it is on Reddit.
Wait, there’s porn here??
You haven’t encountered them on your front page yet???
Wait you’re getting it on your front page?
How?!? I subscribed to every porn instance I could find and still all I’m getting are politics, programming, and for some reason atheist memes.
I think you should change your default page from All/Local to Subscribed
Just a couple of lame nudes
Unfortunately, to understand lemmy is to be on lemmy. You have to be here and experience it.
They have to make that leap of faith. There’s nothing to lose anyway, there’s no requirement to delete reddit to become a lemmy user. So what’s holding them back. Mauve they believe the anti lemmy post on reddit or maybe they just say they want to leave reddit but has no real desire to follow through.
But… what about my 83k karma and 13 year badge!
Gamification is a powerful addictive force.
When Reddit locked down their API and Boost stopped working, I forced myself to do casual browsing on chrome on my phone. It was clunky enough that I didn’t bother replying to comments, and navigation is a bit of a pain on mobile, and that was enough to ruin the game.
What a shame. Imagine if all those users were aware about the Fediverse
these people are the same group of people that won’t leave twitter. some people just live to be miserable and complain about things one hundred percent in their control.
it’s insane and i can’t wrap my brain around it.
It seems to be human nature that people are resistant to change, and it appears that are kombat instincts from when we were monkeys that can only be satiated these days by arguing on the internet and complaining.
You’re simply have to find a way to take the soul out of the human and put into something better. unfortunately I don’t know that Souls exist
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering… Leaving
Reminds me of people who keep voting for politicians they supposedly can’t stand.
There are no viable Alternatives because they won’t come here, to the viable alternative. Seriously I would love to be able to go on special interest boards again but unfortunately the crowd is still on Lemmy.
Who’s prostate do I have to massage with a rubber glove in order to get a simple conversation about Dragon Quest going on around here?
There aren’t viable alternatives. We don’t have the active niche (and not so niche) communities reddit does. And even if there was somehow a meaningful mass exodus, these little instances would break like wet toilet paper trying to hold a bowling ball.
I don’t say this to be critical of lemmy. I’m happy here. Just being realistic.
Yeah we don’t need to be like reddit. I’m happy if rss usage becomes stronger . So those niche communities can stay wherever they can thrive but still be reachable through rss.
Americans confused at what month “27” is
I’m American and confused by what the 2023 day is. YYYYMMDD ftw
ISO8601 all day, every day
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Different date format: day / month / year; as opposed to the US standard: month / day / year.
Which drives me nuts! The month doesn’t change for 4 whole weeks! Why is it first? I want the info that contains the most variation displayed first so my eyes don’t have to glaze past useless info every time.
Year/month/day is superior when reading full dates, because it’s the least ambiguous. If I only need day and month, I’d rather use month’s full or shortened name (like 27 Sep). Ambiguity is the real enemy here, not any particular order
RFC-3339 gang gang
I scanned through this and my takeaway is that it’s just defining a formal grammar for iso 8601. Did I miss anything important?
True, thats how my laptop displays the date. It never even mentions the month because I see that enough on other sources. I guess I just hate how month first is the default where I live more than anything. It perfectly sums up the subpar optimacy of the USA. Shit could be better, but its just not.
¿And don’t you hate how US punctuation is at the end? ¿If you read an entire sentence, but you don’t even know it is a question until you’re at the end, then how do you know which intonation to use? ¡English is subpar and something should be done about that!
Don’t even get me started on the three languages in a trench coat we call English.
Year-Month-Day is also my go-to for naming files (at least in systems that don’t have file versioning) because it allows Name sort to list things chronologically. Just have every version of the same file have the same name, then append Year-Month-Day to the end.
I work with a lot of bespoke systems that use proprietary files, so file versioning with something like Google Drive or OneDrive goes right out the window. But Year-Month-Day makes it easy to maintain some semblance of organization.
Then this must be the year 3202 for you.
It must be tiring at work waiting for the clock to finally strike 00:5pm.
See? Now I dont have to skip the hour when looking for the minutes that constantly change.
Or, as millions of people have done, you could learn to read from right to left.
Now that is what I call optimization.
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I- I can’t understand. Can you please explain it in pounds, pints, and miles?
I once saw my buddy Miles pound down 27 pints!
I’m gonna need it in stone, pecks, and hands.
Other folks say The 5th of November instead of November 5th
There’s no reason the written sequence needs to follow the verbal sequence.
Obviously, because you’re not even writing 11th/5th/2023
Quinvigintember of course.
I just realized that September 7,Oktober 8, November 9 and December 10 is a thing. I feel a bit dumb now. Then I got mad cus it’s screwed up. Was it some Romans squeezing in extra months or something?
I was just reading about this a little while ago. Basically the year used to start with March, and they didn’t have names for January and February since not much happened in winter. Eventually they got named and turned into the first two months.
I love the thought that January and February were so boring they didn’t even get names.
This is a reddit or even Twitter level shit comment. Please take your ignorant self back to either of those platforms. The dumb American trope is overused, largely inaccurate, and tired. Steal some new material from someone more witty and try again.
It’s the second marchcember of the year!
I don’t understand it they go through the same Bumtober as the rest of us
Just migrated from Reddit to Lemmy. This was my final straw.
I missed it this time. I left in June.
Care to summarize what happened?
damn. well, just opt put of google personalized ads and block/isolate cookies and it’s fine. But what a weird (and greedy) thing to do of them lmao
will not result in seeing more ads or sharing on-platform activity with advertisers
…yet. We’re taking steps to limit your privacy, but don’t worry, we’re not going to do it any more. I super swear.
Thanks, although I haven’t used the boost Reddit app for a while, this is finally the final reason for me to uninstall it and never look back.
Lol
Same. I was super frustrated with the killing off of Apollo. This is more than frustrating, it should be illegal. Oh wait, it is is some countries just not the US…
Never mind. I seen it further down.
Welcome to the club
Don’t forget to donate to your chosen instances to keep them going.
Self-hosters donating to themselves
And the Lemmy devs
When Boost for Lemmy went live, I didn’t even hesitate to uninstall Reddit.
I stopped using Reddit the day boost went offline.
Same here
Boost for reddit still works fine
Not for all
You just need to be moderator of a sub, so just make one
Yes, and it gives me a hilarious situation of having two Boosts side by side, and it’s a mystery which one is a reddit one and which one is a Lemmy one
Yup, I’m in the same situation
Thankfully Boost came out the same week Relay went to monthly subscription only. I actually forgot I had set Boost to install automatically when the app was released.
I spent the few days before Boost was released giving the official Reddit app another shot, and remembering why I hate it so much.
Boost making it easy to sign up and get started was the final step on my path away from Reddit.
Same thing. I specifically waited for Boost for Lemmy to release in order to create an account. It feels familiar enough, so no problem.
Fuck reddit! I’m never going to contribute to that website.
What is Boost? Searching for it pulls up a bunch of different things.
What happened this time?
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- so it’s posthumous
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Yes, it was 2 days ago. What happened? I don’t care enough about reddit to open it and find out myself.
Wait, I am dumb, somehow I though it’s already November…
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Have they implemented it yet? This is literary against EU law
The subtitle of the article literally says some countries are exempt and in the article the author said they are waiting for confirmation that the EU is exempt.
It appears I suffered from “being a dumb dumb and only reading the headline” syndrome
I think it’s for the US.
Oh.
Oh wow. I booted up Boost this morning as usual, scrolled for 10-15 minutes, and didn’t realize I was on Lemmy instead of Reddit until this post.
Trying to sub to something from other instance is still pain in the ass tho. Especially when you’re from a small instance so everything is somewhere else.
Agreed. I really hope (and honestly think) that third party tools (and Boost particularly) will improve discoverability as the ecosystem grows. Being able to see other servers’ communities and Local feed will be a big step toward getting across the usability hurdle and getting more people here.
“Multireddits” (for lack of a better word), too. Maybe call them “community bundles.” I’m subscribed to like five different (functionally identical) Star Trek communities, for instance; being able to group them all together and suppress/merge crossposts would be fantastic.
To discover more communities I’ve been using to browse using Everything feed on Sync then subscribing or blocking based on the communities that get shown on my feed.
At least on Liftoff it’s incredibly easy.
With the normal web interface it’s easy as well
The feature that Liftoff has is automatic redirects. So for example if I am lemmy.one user and want to subscribe to !memes@lemmy.ml, clicking the Subscribe button on the Liftoff app will offer to redirect me to lemmy.one/c/memes@lemmy.ml. On the web interface, you would have to manually go to that domain.
Also all the links in my comment automatically open in the Liftoff app.
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Absolutely, though to be fair I trust the anonymous random people running the thousands of fediverse instances and communities far less than a legitimate, traceable company that gets third party audited and has to, at least, follow national laws.
I don’t love Reddit’s owners obviously, but yeah. When it comes to privacy, I don’t have any misconceptions about Lemmy being private in the least. Unfortunately :-(
The difference is advertising. Lemmy has no incentive to sell you out. A company like reddit will squeeze every legal penny out of your personal info and then some more illegally if they think they can get away with it.
just wait 5 years, the fediverse will either be dead or swallowed up by meta. the only two things it has to go for it is the decentralized nature and the absence of open advertisements.
I’ve heard that about FOSS projects before they really blew up. Good things do happen sometimes.
So at any point a community can defederate from meta and only federate with the likeminded free communities.
That is the strength of the fediverse.
yeah, maybe, it will just keep staying under the radar and at some point someone will have to spend some cash to keep the lights on.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if fb or Reddit started their own Lemmy instances, which they would use to post ads, and have some user-transparent integration with their native platform.
But I bet a lot of instances would de-fed them like you say.
They didn’t figure on Reddit making it 5 years either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That is unless the instance owners enters into an advertising deal with a company.
To keep the instance “afloat”
The US has zero privacy laws and, as far as I know, Reddit follows zero audit frameworks (eg SOC 2). Additionally, Reddit currently does not follow its legal burden under state laws.
I’m not saying your mistrust of the fediverse is wrong. I am saying your trust of corporations is completely unfounded and very naive. Trusting the US to do anything is equally naive (see Yahoo, Experian, and multiple alphabet agencies).
50-50 shot lemmy devolves into a fascist hellsite
With the sheer number of @Civility@hexbear.net liberals that get mad at the existence of people more left than them in federated spaces but go out of their way to “dae both sides” justify the presence of nazis, I’d say the chances are higher than that.
Liberals get bored and leave, and if that happens we outnumber the fash
It depends on the attention span of the ‘ex’redditors
Well, its a federation. So the instances that wish to be associated with such, will be. And the ones that don’t, won’t be. Your language is limited by your concept of a website. Reconsider the concept if you wish and update your language accordingly. It will make your comments more clear.
in the scenario I imagine, and am seeing definite signs of, the ‘federation’ will fragment into 2 camps: one that tolerates fascists and one that doesnt, and the one that tolerates them will become a new reddit except this time its not directly run by the FBI/spez etc but has the same bad habits and same bad apples
It’ll become walled gardens. I mean, I’m not that worried easy come easy go in my view, hexbear will continue to truck along whether the lemmiverse falls to fascists or just becomes fractured due to their influence.
can i be in the one without hexbear
Yes you can be in the one that tolerates fascist if you want.
Liberals pounding on my door screaming “yes I would like to sit at the nazi table please!”
you’re already on your way
Lol, I knew this post wasn’t from my home Lemmy. I find that your people’s customs are strange and endearing.
Apparently American Reddit has been plastered with ads from a billion-dollar Evangelical Christian campaign for months and Jewish, LGBT amd atheist users have been especially targeted
Religion and Politics were categories you could not opt out of
Religion and Politics were categories you could not opt out of
Reddit New Atheists (including the CEO) stop being opportunistic hypocrites challenge. Difficulty level:
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed the new atheist problem that Reddit has. It became such a bubble, that I thought that the entire world abandoned any pretense of anything mystical or Supernatural
The idea of them possibly being real has kept a bullet out of my head. I just wish we had proof
I was eventually banned because I kept reporting people for bigotry, and they just didn’t want to do their job. So they banned the complainer instead of actually addressing the problem.
Also for some reason I kept getting directed to atheism and skepticism related subreddits, in addition to Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris, and I wasn’t sure why.
I find it fascinating that their own app can be so horrible when there are so many amazing alternatives that exist(ed)
Unfortunately, reddit has been too long and entrenched in society to “remove” it from our browsers. It is very different from Twitter or another social network. Lemmy is a great project. I hope it works and establishes itself as a real alternative, but it still has a long way to go. Unfortunately, the Reddit/Lemmy format is resource intensive, and that’s the problem with a service like this.
It’s my simple opinion. I support any fediverso project, but reddit, today I think it is irreplaceable.
That’s very true!
Thanks to the whole blackout thing and the many amazing apps that came to Lemmy (like Sync that I’m using rn and loving), Lemmy is now good enough to replace Reddit for the new content (at least in my opinion)
But Reddit is not (or at least not only) an “what’s happening now” social network like Twitter and there is a huge amount of old content on it that can still really useful. So I guess that, in the best scenario, we’ll have Reddit and Lemmy cohexist and complement each other :)
