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Free software has some glib naming conventions

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Free software has some glib naming conventions

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    and the g in gnu stands for gnu

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      So if I’m getting it right, gobject is short for gnugnu(…)gnuimptklibobject.

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        gnuplestiltskin

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          All right, then. Keep your secrets baby.

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        Following the modern C conventions, the text following the series of (gnu) doesn’t matter and you can write anything you want there.

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          Gnugnugnufuckyou

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        It is front recursive so it’s really “…is not unix is not unix is not unix is not unix image manipulation program tool kit object” and that first g doesn’t exist.

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        It’s recursive so it’s more like gnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnugnu…

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        Now you need to write a layer of typedefs to map the expanded names back to their original types.

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      Then what does the g in gnu stand for?

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        you’re not gonna believe this…

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          I’ve got g’news for you…

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            g’news and g’day to you as well, g’lady!

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        I think this is sarcasm, but just in case it isn’t… GNU is a recursive acronym for “GNU’s Not Unix”.

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          My guess for why they chose the letter g is that gnu can be phonetically the same as just nu, but keeps people from interpreting the name of the project as a dumb spelling of “new”.

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            gnot unix

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        gnu

        • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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          Okay but what does the g stand for?

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            Blue Gnu or Black Gnu?

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        Greatsoftware Notwithstanding Unix

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      Yeah, they missed the best part.

      GNU stands for GNU’s Not Unix, which is a recursive acronym. And, when pronounced properly (like the animal) the G is silent. The entire Linux ecosystem has words that start with G based on an acronym where G essentially comes from nowhere, and isn’t actually pronounced.

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        Well, I dont wanna start a debate, but the official website of GNU indicate that the “g” in GNU isn’t silent.

        So it depends on whether you want to pronounce it “properly” or as it was intended.

        The name “GNU” is a recursive acronym for “GNU’s Not Unix!”; it is pronounced as one syllable with a hard g, like “grew” but with the letter n instead of r.

        https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.en.html

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          Well, I dont wanna start a debate, but the official website of GNU indicate that the “g” in GNU isn’t silent.

          Yeah, but that’s wrong. It’s named after the animal, and the animal is pronounced without a G sound. I’m not going to mangle the pronunciation because they screwed up.

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            Depends on where you’re from.

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        Noot noot mother fucker

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          Gnoot gnoot

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      I can’t believe they didn’t put this one in there!

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    Is it pronounced gnu or jnu?

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      Are you gnu here?

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        Jnu enough to stoke an ancient flame war for my personal entertainment.

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          Yer such a wildebeest!

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            What can I say, I’m a candidate for !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world

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          You must have jift for that

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        They’ll be back in a jiff.

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      You can easily answer this for yourself by looking up what the G stands for.

      Wait…

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        The G in GNU stands for JPEG.

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      Unironic answer, the “g” is pronounced, but obviously like the g in give or great, not like j.

    • Ⓜ3️⃣3️⃣ 🌌@sharkey.world
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      @zqwzzle@lemmy.ca @flamingos@feddit.uk it’s pronounced .GIF

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        The G in GIF stands for Graphical, but the G in Graphical stands for Graham Crackers, the G in Graham Crackers stands for God, and the G in God stands for Gnu. From there it’s Gnus all the way down. Also, God pronounces “Graphical” with a soft G as in Jod.

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          Also, God pronounces “Graphical” with a soft G as in Jod.

          🤣

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        Who’s Jeff?

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          This Guy

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        It’s pronounced Jee Iuayh Eff (G I F)

        like XCF or PDF

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          Surely you mean Gee.

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      The G is silent

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        It is in jnu.

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      Depends what language you pronounce it in.

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    A topic with a a lot of gnuances.

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    Does the g in gspot also stand for gnu?

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      Believe it or not, yes.

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        That is why large companies don’t want you to find where it is. The application of proprietary condoms to GNU licensed body parts would taint them with gpl license.

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      it actually stands for garam masala

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    and the g in gnu also stands for gnu

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      Yeah - supposed to be the pinnacle

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      and the g in gnu also stands for gnu

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        thank you

        i expected this sooner xD

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    gnusnotuniximagemanipulationtoolkitlibraryobject

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      Sequel to The Satanarchaeolidealcohellish Notion Potion by Michael Ende nobody asked for.

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      Just a regular German word. Please keep walking, nothing to see here.

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    In case you were wondering the ‘w’ in ‘wine’ stands for ‘wine’, and the full acronym is ‘Wine Is Not an Emulator’. What do you think the ‘w’ in ‘Wine Is Not an Emulator’ stands for?

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      I once tried to play “PHP” in Scrabble and argued that it should be infinite points.

      The opponent didn’t agree.

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        It’s personal home page and I don’t care if they retconed it

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      As a younger teen trying to get starcraft running on my linux box, my parents were definitely upset when they saw me browsing “winehq”. They thought I was trying to get booze shipped to our house :D

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      And Linux Is Not Unix.

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      TikZ ist kein Zeichenprogramm

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      idk let’s ask yaml

  • raman_klogius@ani.social
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    Things to do on Christmas:

    • Unwrap gifts ❌
    • Unwrap acronyms ✔️
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    I wish we knew some new gnu jokes.

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      I wish we gknew some gnew gnu jokes.

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        I wish we gnu some gnu jokes

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    I…I lost track of what just happened. G stands for…something, I imagine.

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      Jraphics

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        Oh god. Is this going to be like how you pronounce “gif”?

        Is it gif?

        Or is it gif?

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      Well it kind of stands for nothing, because at the center of this onion is GNU, which is recursive. It stands for “GNU’s Not UNIX”, so the G in GNU stands for GNU.

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      (((gnu)imp)tk)lib)object)

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        Ah a cursed dialect of lisp that’s inversed.

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      The gnu in gnu stands for Wildebeest

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    I remember a time when almost every category of tool had something named “Yet Another [Thing]” because there were already so many options to choose from when they decided to make their own.

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      Yet Another Better Barrel Attempt (YABBA)

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        You just unlocked a core direwolf20 memory

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      Yeah, like YAML, which’s name originally meant "Yet Another Markup Language*.

      Then they redubbed it to mean “YAML Ain’t Markup Language”, because well, it isn’t actually a markup language. 🫠

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML#History_and_name

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      Yams is really good btw

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      Hierarchical Officious Oracle

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    Gnus and gnomes can break my bones?

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      nobbes. they breeak your nobbes

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    And this really exposes a major challenge with FOSS.

    Names have meaning - it’s why Office is called Office.

    This gnu naming isn’t much of an issue, because this is stuff only technical folks handle. But if we want end-users to embrace things, we need meaningful names - meaningful to them.

    Whenever I tell my friends or family to install Jellyfin so they can access my media, the look on their face says it all.

    MediaMonkey - alright, I get it (yea, not FOSS)

    Plex? OK, if someone then says “think MultiPlex Theaters”, you get it. (Also not FOSS)

    Jellyfin? What is that? Jam on a sharkfin?

    These work really well:

    Resilio SYNC (Yeah, not FOSS, but the name makes sense)

    SyncThing (FOSS)

    FolderSync (not FOSS)

    Notice a trend here?

    I have a printed spreadsheet for all the software I use - if I haven’t touched a service for a couple months, I’ll forget the meaningless name.

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      Counterarguments:

      • Chrome
      • Edge
      • Sky
      • Adobe Acrobat
      • Outlook

      All wellknown programs or services where the name has no relation to the purpose.

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      Compared to how Microsoft names things, FOSS naming is harmless on average.

      Think of them naming the gaming app on Windows PCs “Xbox”, or the distinction between “VS Code” and “Visual Studio Code”, or “edit” (msedit), etc etc

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        Outlook (new) classic new new final (7). Teams (personal). Multiple products with wildly different appreance and somewhat different functionality. And then the whole 365-environment naming, starting from the platform itself.

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        I’ve always despised their naming schemes. I always thought I’d they ever started a car company they’d name their vehicle make as “car”.

        At least Xbox is original but now I’m sitting here wondering if they bought it off a small outfit

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      You went on all this rant and forgot the og?

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        GIMP is an acronym for what’s arguably the most descriptive name possible: GNU Image Manipulation Program.

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          But the acronym totally destroys the understandability of the program name and instead is understood as “an unpleasant or stupid person” (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gimp).

          If you look at similar commercial software you get names like MS Paint, Photoshop or Lightroom.

          They should have stuck with “GNU Image”, “GNU Photo” or maybe “GNU PhotoEdit”.

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            When I teach old people how to use GIMP, we all laugh at the name, I explain what it stands for, and then they don’t forget it.

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          This is what confused me about OP, because I think of this as the application (ie program, or tool) not the library. So to put the name of the tool back into a library, seems backwards.

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      I mean you kind of break your point with Plex. I have no clue what MultiPlex theaters are, but I do know what jellyfin is. Lots of names have no meaning behind them, even for very popular things.

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        At least over here, Cineplexx is a really big movie theatre corporation. That makes it easy to understand what Plex is about.

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          It’s about PMMA sheeting (aka plexiglass), right?

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          Where is “over here”?

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              thanks

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        If they had said cineplex would that have been more meaningful?

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          Sure but only because I’m old enough to understand that. It still would have zero meaning for anyone under 25-30. Like someone else said, multiplex only makes sense if you’re over 40 (which I’m not). So literally in 10 years you can go through two different naming conventions and have literally the next generation not know what you are talking about

          Only choosing meaningful names really doesn’t work anymore. Stuff moves too fast, language moves too fast, and things change constantly.

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        I have no clue what MultiPlex theaters are

        So back in the earlier days of cinema, you’d go to the Cineplex to see a movie. A Cineplex would only have a single screen for viewing movies while the multiplex would have multiple screens for seeing movies on. This started with the first duplex theatre in 1915 and later the first triplex in 1966, shortly followed by theatres with 6+ screens which is around when the term “multiplex” started being used. Basically for anyone born after the 80s (therefore anyone under the age of about 40) the term is largely obsolete since most theatres have at least 4 screens and qualify as multiplexes, plus the industry has seen so much consolidation that smaller independent theatres with 1-2 screens are pretty uncommon now

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      It’s called Jellyfin because “streaming” is something water does,

      The rest of it is diffcult to know for sure but fins guide you and jelly is flexible, and Jellyfin is a fork of Emby - so maybe they were going with “[e]N comes after [e]M alphabetically?”

      Here’s where the service was named:

      https://github.com/joshuaboniface/Emby/issues/2

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        Good explanation. I’d say that’s still a lot of processing for our noggins to quickly adapt to a framework of mind to comprehend all that to make sense of it.

        I still like the name and it does make since after it’s all spelled out.

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      Agreed on all counts.

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    Never thought about it and I’m gonna go back to not thinking about it

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    You've been gnomed meme

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