• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    TBH, tech companies showing AI down our throats is still no good, open-source alternative existing or not.

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      Normal people are losing themselves in AI. I’ve seen multiple instances of people using LLM to fact check someone. Endless “uhh, but I asked ChatGPT and it said blablabla” making me lose faith in humanity.

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        Yeah it’s become impossible to have philosophical discussions, although this truly does seem limited to the virtual world (i.e. via text, online, etc.). If I were to go have some drinks with a friend and they busted out some LLM to take part in our discussion I would chastise them endlessly for it.

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        Honestly its not much different from a google search and reading some nonsense written by someone who has no authority in the subject. As long as it reinforces their belief itll be true in their eyes

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      I would be happy with more nuanced takes on AI.

      Instead of just “All AI is worse than the devil and is killing babies” or “All AI is the pinnacle of humanity and is the next step in our evolution”.

      LLMs have a place, but it is not in every product imaginable.

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        When someone can produce an LLM that doesn’t use more power than entire small nations to spew out bullshit, then we can start inviting nuance. Unfortunately, we have to be pragmatic here; and the consequences of lots of GenAI are way worse than returning to no GenAI.

        Obviously, this doesn’t include pattern recognition or protein folding AI.

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          That also misses the point. If we want to pull the world out of poverty and into prosperity we’re going to need an astonishing amount of power. The only key is to make power that is sustainable so that things requiring a lot of power aren’t given a second thought. The thing you’re mad at are massive corporations putting the cart waaaaaay before the horse. And yes, please be mad at them for that.

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          Local LLMs are a thing, so why don’t you start with your nuance, hmm?

          Is it because LLMs are worse than the devil and are killing babies?

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            That local LLM?

            Still uses that power. Still used the power for training. Still exploited workers. Swing and a miss.

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        Fingers crossed it’ll end up like crypto. Here to stay in the world of finance, no longer in every product that never needed it.

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    On the subject of Foss and AI - one of the G summer of code projects is about integrating an AI voice platform into Neochat and I’m somewhere between bemused and amused by the lack of reaction from de KDE/Plasma community

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      Bold of you to assume it hasn’t been bought, sued or destroyed by MS, Amazon, Google or Meta by that time.

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      That’s the neat thing about open source: you can change it!

      It’s like the difference between renting and owning. When you rent, you can’t really do much. If you own, if you don’t like the wall color, paint it! Or tear it down, or DON’T replace the carpets! Or take a hammer and put holes in the wall to see what’s inside.

      And, because it’s digital, you can make a million copies or delete them! It’s like a holodeck! You do what you want. It serves you!

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      Unpopular opinion, but it’s also fine to hate having AI being added to a tried and true industry standard. FOSS is great, and I use many FOSS programs, but it’s often a decade behind in features, compatibility, & stability.

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        AI is for lying to investors that your company is going to turn a profit in a few years. FOSS projects don’t need that.

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          Try to separate the AI hype from AI.

          AI has been around for years and we all utilize the results of that research.

          Remember that at one time a compiler was seen as AI.

          It’s the curse of AI: once a problem is solved, it’s no longer AI. It just becomes a tool, and we adjust what “intelligence” means to exclude the new abilities of computers and code.

          Even LLMs have value, just not how they’re being used. If you carefully curate the training materials, you could have a useful tool.

          I’d love to see an LLM trained exclusively on medical records of patients who were successfully diagnosed and treated. I wouldn’t want to give it a medical license, but it could be a useful tool in the hands of a competent physician. It might turn out to be useless, but we need to try it.

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              LLMs are AI as much as the enemies in a game are AI. It’s not General AI though, which companies really seem to want people to believe it is.

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                It was kind of OK to refer to enemies as AI back then because not a single human (or investor) truly believed that a bot in CS can write text, paint an image, or replace you at your job. Now misusing the term leads to an unnecessary dangerous confusion.