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    When the city government wants to install anti-homeless benches, but doesn’t want the backlash from installing anti-homeless benches.

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      https://www.huduser.gov/portal/pdredge/pdr-edge-international-philanthropic-071123.html#:~:text=By prioritizing the Housing First,success at effectively addressing homelessness.

      Through an innovative public policy strategy that has virtually eliminated homelessness within its borders

      • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        It is a lot better than other places but not literally 0.

        Per this report, as of 2021 they had 4396 homeless people. A rate of 0.79 per thousand people in Finland.

        Which to be clear is stellar… but doesn’t have much to do with the topic of anti homeless architecture.

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          There will always be homeless people, the ones we have are either crashing or simply do not want to live inside (due to a multitude of reasons involving decades of living in the streets with substance abuse and mental issues). The only folk you’ll find here sleeping on benches are aforementioned and students who have had one too many. Plenty of benches for both and even if all benches are turned into chairs we’ve got intoxication centres and housing available for those who prefer it.

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            oH mY gOd ThAt’S dIsGuStInG sOcIaLlIsTiC cOmMuNiSm!!1!

            • SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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              Just for anyone who’s unaware; it’s social democracy, not communism. It is possible to have a wide public safety net without resorting to communism, which is inherently genocidal.

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      This is probably the least dickish way to go about it.

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      I think your instant assumption about it being done for evil says more about the country you live than it does about Finland, because homelessness doesn’t seem to be a big issue in Finland. That’s ~5k homeless people in a country with ~5 million people, that’s ~0.1% of the population being homeless.

      • uis@lemmy.world
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        0.1% is big. I want to see 0%.

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        The US is roughly the same percentage and it was definitely a comment from a US political frame. In the US they are simply more visible as they congregate in cities.

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          As opposed to here where they congregate to mountaintops?

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            Certain demographics do not congregate everywhere. Farmers do not congregate in cities.

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              But we are talking about US and Finnish homeless who do

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        Also 70% of those homeless people are living with friends or relatives

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      We don’t have homeless people on finland. Or we do but quite minimally, the numbers are in couple thousand if I recall right

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        It’s around 4,400. It bears mentioning that the population of Finland is only around 4.5 million. The Dallas Fort Worth Metro area has a population of about 6.5 million and a homeless population of around 4,500

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          It bears mentioning that the population of Finland is only around 4.5 million.

          Lmao you might want to check your numbers

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            Sorry you’re right. It’s more like 5.5 million. My point stands

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    One person benches

    Chair. That’s a chair

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    Is there a hostile architecture community here?

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      In this case Finland actually takes care of their people and homelessness isn’t a problem there. They’re just really polite introverts who I might guess prefer sitting alone as opposed to on a bench close to others.

      Source - my introverted niece met a Fin, fell in love, moved to Finland and is in absolute heaven. Her husband has visited the States a few times and is always overwhelmed with the casual social interactions with strangers in public.

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        Finn here, we still have a ton of those stupid benches with a railing in the middle.

        • CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿@lemmy.world
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          Who’s your favourite Flying Finn? Mika or Kimi?

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            Matti Nykänen. The one actually flying Finn.

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        Holy shit, can someone please get me to Finland?

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        I was born to the wrong culture, said in Canadian.

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    “one person benches” you mean chairs?

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      It’s clearly a one person bus without wheels

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    We have single person benches in my city not because people don’t want to sit next to each other, but so homeless people can’t sleep on them.

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    Those are chairs

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    or anti homeless space

    • Chill Dude 69@lemmynsfw.comBanned
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      That’s what I thought. IMHO, hostile architecture is the physical-world equivalent of a lot of the policies that led us to flee Reddit, Twitter, etc.

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      My first thought. You could put up three 2 person benches there without too much trouble. It’d still look fine with spaces between so people can sit alone.

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    I can see the appeal of this in some ways, but I hope there are also two-person benches in the same area because when I’m, for example, out with my daughter and we both want to sit down for a minute, it’s nice not to have to yell to talk to each other.

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      Or spread your arms if you are alone

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    This is intolerant against fat people! It is super uncomfortable when one butt cheek slaps over on each side!

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      Thanks I came 👍

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    Probably a shit-ton if the seats on the plane are spaced out the same way

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    Apparently they’re being made by Sineu Graff from Denmark and this is somewhere in Helsinki, but I heard that those aren’t too common in Finland, so hold your horses, you isolationists ;)

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    Now do saunas

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      Coffin full of hot rocks

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    Why does this make me sad? I ironically do actually prefer seating alone but something about this doesn’t feel right

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      Maybe you prefer to block a second seat, when you sit on a two person bank. ^^

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        I actually think that it has more to do with the fact that i prefer to sit alone but i don’t straight up want to make sure that i don’t speak to any stranger ever again

        But then again i don’t like too much socializing, ig my brain just doesn’t know what it wants

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          You can just walk up to them and talk, but since they are sitting in one of these chairs, they likely will want a brief conversation and be left alone. Also, socializing in other places like a bar or in a park is not outlawed. Do try to be friendly and courteous. The best way to start a conversation is by introducing yourself. Then, hop into what you wanted to talk about. Maybe even try to start with a topic that can transition to your final goal. In the end, there is an intention behind every social interaction, and it can either be casual or formal. Maybe that is what you are desiring, for a known intention/goal to connect with others.

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      Too much space between them.

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    That one person who still comes up to you and asks if they can sit next to you

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    Ain’t Finland a paradise?

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      Not getting sunlight for months in a row tends to make people depressed.

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        *to make people look depressed

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      Oh hell no

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