Well, given that the correct statement in that situation would be “We should run for our lives”, the 🐑 on the right is technically correct, the best kind of correct.
Run to get slaughtered?
Or take down the slaughterers?Whatever will produce the best outcome in both the short and the long term. Trying something and failing would be demoralizing, but still better than just getting slaughtered. Proving that escape is an option may encourage others to try and escape.
So there’s no real definitive answer to your question.
History proved otherwise…
The best time to mount a resistance is years ago. The second best time is today.
No one is coming to save you, my friends. Strength, as always, lies in community building.
Also better written: “my friends: Strengthen yourselves together, you can achieve miracles when you bond.”
lmao this is dark… And a very good comparison of the world as it is now.
Reality is worse: 90% of sheep bred for meat are lambs slaughtered at less than 2 years old. Mutton (adult sheep) is cheaper and less preferred.
With how industry has changed chickens… I am always surprised they haven’t managed to modify sheep so that the adults are as desired as the young.
Why should they? Adults are more expensive to raise per kg of meat.
I assumed the adults were a lot bigger.
Not a lot. Growth slows down fast when an animal gets older.
So they are slaughtered at between 6 and 12 months, because that’s the time where the growth slows down too much.
No point in having a 30% heavier animal if it takes 2x as long to get to that point.
Totally, I didn’t realize they grew so fast. And in my head a lamb is like a baby. Guess not really.
Yeah, it’s like with the human term “child”. A child is anything from birth until age 12 or so. There’s quite a bit of a difference in that age range.
For sheep, a lamb is anything up to roughly a year.
In fact, sheep enter puberty at ~3-4 months, so a lamb will usually be slaughtered during puberty.
what’s so bad about any of that?
You have one specific meat industry largely organized around killing baby animals.
why should baby animals matter more than any other? one that’s had longer to live and develop relationships surely is worse to be led to slaughter than one with hardly any understanding of the world and their place in it.
America is not the world, and Gaza has been in a constant state of resistance.
Has the sheep made any plans for this resistance? Have they made any preparations for it? Formed any organizations? No? They just expected all the other sheep to suddenly form themselves into an army, do all the work themselves, and then praise the guy who said “we should mount a resistance” as a great visionary hero?
The second sheep is right. That isn’t the time to say “we should mount a resistance”. It’s the time to actually resist using whatever means you have available. Of course, that would take actual effort and sacrifice, so they’ll just march to the slaughter wondering why the revolution never came.
The dude forgot to draw “Democrats” on collars.
No, redundancy doesn’t make it funnier.
I’ve gotten flack from supposed anarchists, or fascists really.
I believe you mean sheeple. It’s funny how “freedom” is written on everything, in every politician’s speeches, and uttered in media at least once per segment. And yet these same people who wrote and speak about it would never lift a finger to uphold the freedom of others, and break down and cry, exclusively, when their freedom is taken away for just being themselves.
And yet these same people who wrote and speak about it would never lift a finger to uphold the freedom of others, and break down and cry, exclusively, when their freedom is taken away for just being themselves.
I enjoyed OPs comic, but from that linked exchange OP is telling people to buy weapons and body armor to fight the government but then says they wouldn’t participate in this because they’re in Japan and would potentially be detained by ICE if they came here. They’re engaging in exactly what I quoted from your comment, which is why they’re getting flack. They’re deriding people for not throwing themselves into a meat grinder all the while safely sitting 6,000 miles away in comfort.
It’s exactly the opposite, stickly@ has given up on saving his own family and friends, when I asked them to insurrect. They are absolutely welcome to surrender. I have not.
I challenged them 🧵 to even dismantle tourist deportations, and downvoted my motion. I can face fascism to the barrel, but not by myself.
Are you?I’m genuinely trying not to be mean, but this is some of the most cartoonish “tough guy” language I’ve seen in a long time.
You’re literally just sitting at your home 6,000 miles away anonymously goading others into amassing weapons and armor to fight one of the largest super powers in the world, talking about how you’re “willing to stare down the barrel of a gun,” while whining about downvotes on a website and saying that you can’t participate because you might get temporarily detained at the airport.
Can I not have sympathy for Americans getting sent to deathcamps simply because I do not want them dead? How is it cartoonish to have sympathy at destroying fascism whenever it crops up, when it affects me too? You think I don’t have fascists raining down my neck because my imperialists never left?
I want everyone to live free. Be able to choose who they want to engage with, who to befriend, who to communicate, etc… Since we know your current despot will not help us, I choose to help folks that I can. And those are you.
It is a challenge of priorities. I don’t care about votes. Do you care to see your friends and family get abducted? That is the crux.
I don’t. So I’m fighting to keep my loved ones safe. I am revolting. Are you?
Can I not have sympathy for Americans getting sent to deathcamps simply because I do not want them dead?
Can you not tell us to kill each over your idiotic uninformed exaggerations?
when I asked them to insurrect
Do it yourself then. You’re not doing jack shit and everyone knows it.
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sheeple
Let’s not dehumanize stupidity. It’s a serious mal-evolution we have to fight against constantly, esp. in a up-downvote network.
Rage against the machine mentioned something similar.
“What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy”
*Oligarchs
Then the sheep mounts a resistance by doing the best it can (killing the farmer or shouting very loudly), see that whatever it has done hasn’t changed anything and that nobody is joining or paying attention to it, and then it’s an express ticket to meatpacking plant or worse.
Mounting a resistance is much harder than “just doing something”
It’s better to not even try. Sounds very American.
I grew up playing baseball. I’d rather go down swinging.
I used to think that a good death would be in my sleep, in my old age. Now I think of that as a waste. I’ve come to the conclusion that my end will have a twist ending, and I intend to make the best of it.
It’s more of a critique of the “just do something” culture. Killing one farmer will just result in that farmer getting replaced with an identical cog in the machine, it also won’t magically inspire all the sheep to kill their oppressors as seen historically with humans - that kind of thing is only found within books.
Pretty much the only kind of effective action if the goal is to change things rather than merely feel good in the moment is organization, but it is a slow, tedious and dangerous process - it’s not something that can be achieved immediately or individually.
Giving up before trying is the best way to help the enemy
Have you tried the French Method
French method is how we got in the situation we are in, it literally led us from the rule of aristocrats to rule of capitalists
If Americans aren’t even willing to protest, truly protest, they’ve already lost their country to the first tinpot dictator that came along. It’s horrifying seeing someone downvote a post like yours that urges them to defend themselves.
America is lost and it’s because of Americans.
Putting them in a dumpster isn’t enough
Yeah I don’t think they were talking about keyboard warriors that would never actually do anything.
If keyboard warriors aren’t effective, then why are they among the first people that dictators go after?
If keyboard warriors aren’t effective, why do MAGAs put so much effort into the Conservative Propaganda Machine?
They are ineffective. Dictators tend to suppress all dissident speech, not keyboard warriors specifically. Also, they can’t go after anyone not in their country. Obviously, the internet gives people that ability.
Most of the keyboard warriors I’ve seen are non-American. Trying to egg us on into indiscriminate violence.
Even if the keyboard warrior won’t actually do something, that doesn’t excuse you from doing the same.
I’m not the one calling for indiscriminate violence. Sheer stupidity playing directly into Trump’s hands.
Who’s calling for indiscriminate violence? I’m all for carefully targeted violence. Let’s make it count.
If not now, then when?
later
Tomorrow
The military can send missiles to any point on the globe with an accuracy of centimeters without losing a man. The time for a resistance was decades ago.
We overslept.
Yes. And the second best time is now.
Yeah… lol. It always looks good in text, doesn’t it?
“THE SECOND BEST TIME IS NOW.”
It’s such a bold and provocative statement. The problem is when it comes to actually do the work. Ninety one million people couldn’t bring themselves to check a box in November. So…. I predict that the castle will remain un-stormed.
This again.
bring themselves to check a box for genociders.This again.
As I said on the other comment you said the same thing on:
Looks like you ended up with all that genocide but now with a side of LGBTQ+ persecution, illegal deportations, and concentration camps!
How’s all that winning feeling bud?
I’m European, seeing you go down is winning
Yeah. So. I’m not sure what your damage is, but it’s not my business. There’s clear something going on there and it’s not my problem.
You’re derailing the conversation to illustrate that you get some sadistic joy from the suffering of others and I don’t believe giving you the platform to continue is healthy for anyone involved, so I’m blocking you.
Be sure to come at me with your sock puppets so I can block them too.
I think it’s just better for everyone.
some sadistic joy from the suffering of other
LOL
The majority of the world wants you violent imperialist mass murdererd gone.
It’s a joyful event.
No crocodile tears for any of you or your kind.
You’re absolutely fucking stupid if you think this is better. You get a genocide plus an erosion of every facet of your life, reducing your potential impact to affect said genocide.
Genocide started underBlue MAGA, they supported it.
What happens to the US and their erosion is deserved, they onlu cared about themselves anyway.
Now they get a taste of their own medicine. Enjoy
and with such vast power and influence… name the victories the US has had verses an insurgency on their own turf?
and that’s considering untouchable industrial military complex, logistics pipeline, more numerous, better trained, and armed forces, unlimited money, and no real push back from the american populous.
if one appeared within the US… it would be absolutely devastating to the military
name the victories the US has had verses an insurgency on their own turf?
None. Because they have only been tried once and failed because the odds were even. But now…
The military can send missiles to any point on the globe with an accuracy of centimeters without losing a man.
If you think the armed civilian populace of America can stand up to the full weight of the military Bering down on them…. I wish you good luck. But we both know how much all the internet bravado only looks good in writing.
since the 1770’s i know of two wars the US has won against an insurgency.
the US has been in a LOT of wars though. and one of the things they learned was that bombs were not very effective, and the us would have a much worse time off it bombing their own cities. A-wall’s and desertions would go through the roof, they would be out gunned a thousand to one, with literally more guns then people. Isfulstructure they would rely on is vulnerable from every angle, the government would be prisoners in their own bunkers.
it would be devestating if the us has an insurgency
For all of our sakes, I’m sure we won’t have to worry about it because it’s not going to happen anyway.
For all of your sakes, I hope you’re right, but what is happening right now is literally every single right is being stripped away. Even the right to vote is in a thin line. Is it worth fighting if you’re no longer allowed to vote? If not, the american people are as spineless as I always thought they were.
It’s easy to pass judgment, isn’t it?
But rolling over is not an option. The military isn’t going to kill all the workers. The workers are more important than any other group. If the workers strike, the rich suffer.
I’m not sure if anyone told you, but if the workers strike- everyone will also suffer. Including non combatant civilians.
When the resistance in territories occupied by nazi germany and imperial japan killed a high ranking official of the occupying force, the occupiers would round up innocent people and shoot to kill them on the streets. “Reprisals” is what it’s called. But do you think the resistance should’ve given up? Surrender to nazi germany and imperial japan just to avoid the “reprisals”? No, because if they had done that, the whole world would be speaking german and japanese.
lol… it’s not the 1940’s. You know this right? It’s important that you know this.
Yeah guys! It’s very important that we learn nothing from history and that we ignore the signs of fascism rearing its head once more. /s
lol /s
Obviously. What do you think happens to the workers once they’re enslaved? The workers need to unite NOW, if they’re ever gonna have a chance to pull the rich and powerfull down into the mud.
But what is your solution to the current issue then?
So… your solutions is basically to fuck everyone and just stop everything. lol….
Good luck with that.
My solution?
My solution is to have had everyone vote back in November. That way the bed we’re now having to lie in wouldn’t have been made for us in such a way that would lead to you and I having to have this conversation.
But considering the fact that my solution requires manipulating the laws of physics, and fits has a barely above zero chance of succeeding.
We’re fucked and all we can do is wait it out.
So just don’t do anything, and hope your slaveowner will be nice? Got it. He won’t, and a lot of people will die because you don’t give enough of a shit.
Words look so cool when strung together to make a rallying statement of intent to act, don’t they.
But you all seem to always fall short of action.
There was supposed to be an uprising in November, December, January, February, March, shall I go on?
You all are so quick to climb over one another to be the first to pat yourselves on the back for typing up the coolest words to inspire OTHERS to act. You all salivate at the idea of bringing all types of violence to Nazis, the upper classes, the CEOs… yet, nothing. Words.
Here I’m only speaking the truth. I’ll make no apologies that you don’t like it or that it’s unpopular. Im too old and too tired of pretending to believe that any of you have the strength of conviction to leave your houses let alone begin a grassroots movement to make change. So forgive me for not buying into this make believe army of yours.
For fuck’s sake. Tend of thousands of you couldn’t be bothered to tick a fucking box to save democracy.
Now you’re wanting everyone to believe you’re willing to lay down your life for it? Pretend all you want bud. But don’t get mad when people call you out.
Fucking LOL.
Voter turnout is always highest for presidential elections, and the last two have had the highest in decades. Yet that is still in the low 60’s. Any ideas for how to increase turnout?
vote harder!
A fascist dictator who laid out exactly what he was going to do in a bullet pointed manefesto was enough for me. But considering that this wasn’t enough to make people get off their asses and check a fucking box- I really don’t see anyone scrambling to arms.
There was no box with a non-genocide collaborator.
If you did have a time machine, how would you get everyone to vote?
Oh there’d be no way I alone would be able to move that mountain. The concept I spoke of involved everyone from right now, going back to 2024 knowing then what we know now…. for a do-over.
But the more I read through the comments, the more I have to accept that many of the people here would chose not change a fucking thing.
There’s tons of people here who were here during the election that were crying and shouting for everyone to not vote blue.
Every single one of them that haven’t run away or rolled an alt so as to return to play the victim of their own decisions- are still going on about that shit. Not a single one admitting they made a mistake and that they wished they could have helped stop this. Not ONE. Yet you don’t see anyone wishing they hadn’t voted against Trump. Even if they (like me) had to plug their nose to do it.
So at this point, I think the collective ignorance has reached such a profound level, that it would be impervious to any form of modification via time travel. It’s so much a part of our fucking culture now, that there’s no chance we wouldn’t just take that shit back there with us. Hell, I’d go so far as to say that our ignorance so fucking prevalent within us that I honestly believe that at this point- it’s embedded into our evolutionary process- essentially….
stupidity is in our DNA.
You know how you could change it? By convincing the DNC they will 100% lose on the platform and actions that made them lose. Nothing else, going back and trying to tell millions of people that ICE will send people to concentration camps and deprive them of due process and give Israel unlimited logistical and diplomatic support as they commit a genocide, and they will say “…like theyre doing now?”
trade stock tips? with the time machine you could even go to an earlier time to exploit knowledge of economic trends, and then make multiple trips to the day before the election… every time you run out of time, just go back 24h again.
LOL “wait it out”
What a bunch of pathetic weaklings.
Where’s your american heroes patriot biggest fighter for freedom stand up for what we believe in greatest country democracy in the universe talk now?LOL “pathetic weaklings”
What wouldn’t you suggest they do? And keep in mind, your suggestion needs to include something you yourself are willing to do.
Because it seems so easy for so many to send tens of thousands of people to their deaths. Put up or shut up.
And for the record, blind ignorance fuels blanket accusations. Never in my entire life have I ever said american’s are heroes, patriots, the biggest fighters for freedom. The last time I stood for anything American was the pledge when I was in gradeshool.
So you’re free to take your shit and shove it right back to where you found it.
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America didn’t win in Afghanistan, and you think it would win a war if the military was forced to turn their guns on friends and family?
Yes. I absolutely do. There’s a reason Trump fired military commanders.
commanders don’t really matter if the soldiers revolt
The soldiers are people who looked at this and said “sign me up”.
Best of luck.
Disagree. There’s too many Americans to carpet the whole 🇺🇲. Trump doesn’t want a pyrrhic victory.
Trump wants a victory. I all but guarantee he doesn’t care how it happens.
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Weapons are for the weak.
But… they don’t have enough missles to kill even 1% of the population (no source) Unless you include nukes… So they don’t really matter if the resistance is large enough.
they don’t have enough missles to kill even 1% of the population
So if we’re going to resort to splitting hairs, let’s do it right.
No- America does not have enough “missles” to kill everyone in America. However the number they can kill would be FAR greater than one percent, as one percent of America is only three point three million people. The population of New York alone is eight point eight million.
So, if the military simply just sent one or two Trident II D5s per city, it would wipe out any potential resistances that could even stand a snowball’s chance in Florida.
Now, that’s just New York.
The U.S. has fourteen Ohio-class submarines. Each capable of carrying a maximum of twenty Trident II D5 missiles, for a total of two hundred and eighty deployed missiles.
So let’s say we sent two per major US city. That’s one hundred and forty major US cities of their choosing- Wiped out. Gone.
The only half-assed winning strategy here would be to amass said resistance in the heart of every red state.
Hope this helps.
I did say unless you include nukes.
And my point was that they don’t even need them to shut that shit down.
Two non nukes per city would be barely a scratch. Maybe a few thousand people per city if you hit the most densly populated spot.
Look up what a Trident 2 D5 can do.
Everything I see talks about it being nuclear. So no source on what it can do with a non nuclear payload. But I feel confident it is less than MOAB. And that can’t kill to many.
Thats like salting then bleaching the plants in your garden because butterflies disturb you. You can do it to show how powerful you are but you’re really doing more damage to yourself.
Blacks, women and LGBT folks have been the largest gun buying demographic for several years. You suburban white boys didn’t get the memo?
It’s a commitment for sure, NOT to be taken lightly. You do you.
Thyme
With some garlic and olive oil.
I highly reccomend the book ‘Blessed is the Flame’ for a more in-depth take on this mindset, and how it breaks. It’s a short read, but quite incredible.
@AntiBullyRanger they better remain peaceful. They don’t want to give the meatpacker an excuse to harm them
Forgot where I read because it’s been years ago, but someone said that humans should be blessed being born human and not as sheep, as sheep can be led anywhere without question including for slaughter.
