Bin laden and its not close
Bin Laden loved his kids. Part of the reason he moved to that compound in Pakistan was because he wanted his kids to have a semblance of a normal life. He’s discuss politics with is Eldest daughters. When he was captured he was found asleep with his youngest son.
Western educated man who is pissed off at the US for abandoning his political ascension? Slightly better than a meth addicted turboracist, a crazy murderer, and a child molester. I doubt bin Laden is going to be able to do much opinion changing in a single evening and I doubt that he’d outright kill or molest them.
Bin Laden fathered 24 children, the first of which was with his first cousin when she was 16 and he was 17. They went on to have ten more children. The other 13 were spread amongst five other wives. They also found several beheading videos on his computer. He also believed muslims should kill any US civilians they find until the US withdraws support for Israel.
I think definitely killing and maybe molestation would be on the table.
He was a wealthy politician first, revolutionary like fifth. Shit, you’re right, molestation is on the table.
Thankfully I’m not an American, so think my theoretical family would be more likely okay with him than the others.
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Not even remotely close. I saw him first and before seeing the rest of the faces I already knew that this was an usian thing so he was going to be “a major evil”.
Fact is, aside religion, we’d have a lot in common, including hating the US so, if any, it would give for an interesting evening for my kids and a more interesting post-evening chat with him.
The other 3, in my eyes, are way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse.
Bin Laden could be trusted because from what I know he never purposely wanted kids targeted. One murdered several children, one murdered too many to count in concentration camps as well as ordering soldiers to do it because he didn’t see them as human. The last one was a sex pest and I wouldn’t trust kids with.
The man had multiple wives and multiple kids. All of which where taken care of financially- so ya seconded
Bin Laden would fuck then but at least he’d marry them first.
You must not know very much about Bin Laden. Give his Wikipedia articles a quick skim. Your kids wouldn’t survive the night. If they survive an hour, it’s because they decided to kill them slowly.
I just read every section that sounded relevant and he sounds like a great guy besides the religious fundamentalism. Wrote poetry, took his kids on picnics, encouraged the american public to work with Obama on stopping climate change…
Yeah… but he supported Arsenal when he was in England, went to their old stadium for games - some people will never be able to forgive that.
Bin laden, of course! I heard he is the bomb.
I know for a fact Bin Laden had games and the movie Cars on his computer. Safest bet.
Ugh he’s an arsenal fan.
Not in my house!
Did you see that ludicrous display last night‽
The trouble with arsenal is they just like to walk it in.
What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?
No lol I just know they have been getting a bunch of hate recently. Were they bad?
Pretty sure I remember seeing he had a bunch of Naruto fansubs on his computer, too. He could even watch your weird kid and keep them entertained for the night.
Tbh the biggest danger that would come from having bin Laden babysit your kids is the possibility of them being killed in a drone strike.
He went untouched for almost four decades I think they’d all be fine…
Bin Laden unless you have twins.
Got me good. Thanks!
Hitler liked Children and Dogs, so “Say Hello to Mr. Adolf, kids!”
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Tbh, I don’t know who the lady is
I think that’s the lady currently on trial for murdering her three kids.
Now I know, and
trial is over. she will likely have another trial. we won’t know until end of Sept when the next hearing for her case is set.
it’s possible a plea deal could be offered, but unlikely.
‘we have had the trial, yes. but what about the second one?’
I believe they’ve already said they aren’t retrying her case
Woman who recently had a mistrial go viral for being the latest influencer courtroom case. Similar to Depp v Heard. The woman’s name is Lindsay Clancy, I believe.
Notable things (viewing this through the lens of my wife who told me about this case):
- flimsy hard evidence against the mother
- mother allegedly tried to kill herself 3 different ways after snapping and allegedly killing her children while the husband was out of the house
- a lot of the evidence seemed to be hearsay from the husband
- children’s bodies were cremated by the father
- father is suspected of having a mistress because he moved on after this relatively quickly.
- jury trial ended in a hung jury, because 1 juror tried to reverse “12 Angry Men” it to get all other jurors to switch to a Guilty verdict.
- Clancy admitted to the murders initially
My unsolicited opinion is that she very likely did commit the crimes, but the State has insufficient evidence to convict due to the police’s negligence during their investigation.
Lindsay Clancy
She admitted to the murders, but is pleading insanity.
also this guy is spreading lies. the evidence is clear she did it, and she confessed. there was no despute as to her guilt in murdering her children.
the issue is whether she can be held criminally liable for first degree murder. if the charges had been manslaughter or something else, it would have been a slam dunk conviction. but due to her mental state at the time, it’s questionable if she was capable/committed first degree, or premeditated, murder.
but people don’t want to talk about the legal issues in the case… they just want to push the emotional bullshit that she was absolutely innocent, or absolutely guilty, and there can’t be anything in-between. and lots and lots of people like the db0 user commenting here are spreading lies about the case to push their political agenda.
to the point that many of the TikTok moms who support her innocence are working entirely outside of the factual evidence of the case. which is also more evidence of how social media itself is causing psychosis in many folks, as it’s well-documented already how social media amplifies delusional and paranoid thinking.
I was pretty explicit, I think she did it and the state lacks evidence to convict beyond the shadow of doubt.
Sorry if the db0 in my username added some political leaning to my above post. I was trying to be pretty by the numbers as best as I knew.
I didn’t even mention the fact that there’s been a giant push for people to claim that the father committed the murders. It’s pretty far out there for claims.
I know another comment some issues with the way her specific state handles insanity pleas. Of that, I am not too in the know about. So I didn’t mention it.
What the state lacks evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt is that she was sufficiently sane to be held criminally liable at the time of the murders in the state of Massachusetts. That last bit is important because it’s the only state where the prosecution has to prove sanity rather than the defense having to prove insanity.
Personally I suspect she’s not guilty by reason of insanity, but I’m not certain I’d feel that way beyond a reasonable doubt were I on the trial. And it seems a large portion of people are of the opinion neither side managed to clear the bar of reasonable doubt
I can switch to my Lemmy.World account if you prefer 😅
Fixed. Thanks! Problem with going off the cuff is I am terrible with names.
Get your wife out of her social media bubble.
Did I say something untrue? Nobody has corrected any bulleted things I stated. Just said I was spreading misinformation and never clarified.
How is the husband gtfoing indicative of a mistress or relevant to the question of whether the wife was sane at the time of the murders?
Having people close enough to take you in when your nutso spouse commits triple homicide is not a red flag or a cause to cast doubt on where the guilt lies
I don’t have a mistress but if my wife killed 3 family members, I’m sure I could find someone to give me a place to crash to get away
- Flimsy hard evidence against the mother
(your first bullet)
Is absolutely untrue and makes it sound like you are trying to cast doubt on the case in weird ways based on all your subsequent points.
This isn’t “Making of a Murder” , no matter how many podcasts you heard. Extremely clear cut case from an evidentiary perspective, so much so neither side argued the evidence AT ALL
The husband embezzled donations after skimping on the child’s gravestones.
He fucking set the whole thing up and is getting a free pass because this is what Americia stands for these days.
TIL that Hitler isn’t the “Worst” option for everything lol
Depends on how white you are I guess.
People murder their children every 5 days in America. That means that 265 people have wiped out their families since Casey killed her kids. In almost all cases, the father is the perpetrator. Do you know the names, or faces of any of those hundreds of men?
Casey killed her kids because she was nuts. Not even the prosecution disputes this.
People hate her because misogyny and ableism. If she was a man and did it for insurance money, this would barely make the local news.
- Woman is charged for killing her three kids.
- Evidence is real shabby.
- Regardless, she was clearly out of her mind.
- Loads of people hop on the case as an example of a person that should not be punished due to their mental state.
- The case gains loads of media attention.
- “This is misogyny.”
Not speaking for them, as I don’t know exactly what they meant. But I suspect they meant misogyny in the sense that the ratio of female to male coverage of similar scenarios playing out would lead you to assume there would be an equal amount of male father killing his children coverage, but we don’t see that reflected in reality.
I suspect that’s the media’s fault more than anything else.
The case is heavily publicized because 1) many woman relate to a lack of postpartum support in this country and 2) the not guilty by reason of insanity plea which hinges on a 18 minute psychotic break resulting in three murders and is inconsistent with current medical understanding of postpartum psychosis.
The question is whether they’ll be able to offset the blame onto the medical establishment and answer seems to be yes, as it seems several of the medical professionals involved in her case may be successfully sued for malpractice.
Within the medical community the case has already changed the practice of many clinicians relating to post partum psychiatric care unfortunately being less likely to be accepted by a practice (and referred to often scarcely available specialized centers) or the threshold to institutionalize patients against their will is now lower given the concern that they may be a danger to their community and that any criminal act theyay engage in could be later framed on their treatment team.
People hate her because misogyny and ableism.
I kind of disagree
It’s become a huge story because of the support and empathy that she’s getting, while the other cases of infanticide don’t receive attention or support (and rightfully so).
Still doesn’t make the choice for babysitter any easier
it’s a huge case because it’s a proxy for the gender war and extremists on both sides have trumpted it as loud as they possibly can. like the bozos here pushing false claims about the evidence.
most normal folks think she’s nuts and should be jailed like anyone else who kills her kids.
the insane people think she should be set free and isn’t guilty, even though she confessed and all the evidence is clear she did the crime. and many of them claim it was the dad that did it because only men can be evil, and if she did do it, he forced her to do it with psychic powers.
the subtle of court case, whether she is criminally liable for her actions, is completely lost the vast majority of folks, especially the insane people.
No one is saying she should be set free, they’re saying she should be found not guilty by reason of insanity.
That gets you locked up in a mental instiution
lots of people are saying she should be set free. that’s why the case is so big on social media. it’s been drivin by insane weirdo women who think the husband did it and they have a massive massive following on tiktok.
No one is saying she should be set free. That is a straw man.
Yes, they are saying it. Stick your head in the sand all you want. I’ve seen dozens and dozens of tiktoks saying she should be set free. they are all over. with 1000s and 10,000s of likes and shares.
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(Insert gender war here)
She was able to control and strangle her three children to death. I feel bad because there’s a documented path of attempting to seek mental heath.
Let’s be real if this wasn’t a white woman it would likely be a max sentence verdict. This was a horrific crime, the type of shit that gets minors charged as adults.
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I wouldn’t leave children with those guys either.
Osama for sure.
I don’t know who top left is, but I reckon Bin Laden’s the safe bet here
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As a childless adult that’s a fucking crazy thing to say for so many reasons.
I can appreciate a good dark joke, but generally it needs a humourous component beyond “it’s funny because it’s dark”, otherwise it’s just lame.
It’s scary that not all of the choices are the same level of risk.
I think im going bin laden
ngl, since im a white, cis, heterosexual, non-jewish, german: probably hitler. i dont think he was the kinda guy that would kill children just because he could. if these children happened to have like, a jewish mother, things would definitely look different
I’m italian so I guess it depends on when on the timeline they plucked him
Osama bin Laden loved his kids. He was hard on them, for sure, he was basically what you imagine when you think of a deep south US prepper survivalist - a bit eccentric and paranoid, but intelligent - he would be taking his kids on long hikes, teaching them how to sleep in the desert with only sand as a blanket, but he did it out of a deep desire to protect them and give them skills to survive.
deep south US prepper survivalist
intelligent
sorry, you lost me there
If they’re brown Muslim children
I’ll check back in a few hours, I have a feeling this’ll be a dumpster fire.
Surprisingly it’s not that bad. Proud of the lemmings
It’s just the “wimmin bad” incel shit from /r/SipsTea being reposted on Lemmy after being posted there every day for the last week.
