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        If you had ever been fat and then lost a lot of weight, you would know that the physical feeling is night and day different. The feeling of being fat is exhausting, your joints hurt, you’re tired all the time, it’s truly awful. You’d wonder how you could stand being fat. At least that’s how it felt for me.

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          The constant limiting yourself in what you eat and how much you eat, never really feeling full, always having to savour every tiny bite of what you love to eat because there’s only a small amount…Yeah that’s not really happiness either. I lost 75lbs five years ago, and this is still how i feel. Sure, my energy levels are higher and I’m less exhausted, but I’m 100% not any happier than i was back then. It’s just other stuff that’s sucking the joy out of life now.

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            Be unhappy with an unhealthy body with a huge gut, saggy arse and man boobs or be unhappy with an attractive healthy body.

            If I’m going to be unhappy either way, I still know which I’d choose.

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              I’m not sure I would bother with the massive effort it is to change lifestyle like that, if i got fat again. It’s fine to maintain now that i have it, no need to revert back in to old habits. But i can’t unequivocally say it’s worth the effort to make that change.

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                It sounds like you are weary in general. I feel for you. I know that feeling. But you cannot teleport back in time to skip getting healthy so it’s a moot point. And I think you know deep down you’d feel even worse if you could. If you’re at a low point right now, remember those don’t last forever. I hope any low points you experience aren’t too long or rough.

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            It sounds like you expect some one thing to make you “happy”. That isn’t a thing. Also, it sounds like your story is similar to mine except your perspective is different. Remember, it’s not normal as far as human history goes to have extremely calorie dense food everywhere all the time in large portions. It’s also not normal to be able to easily get through a day without doing anything physical, even taking under 1000 steps the whole day. So while you see it as some miserable extra steps and responsibilities you have to take that make you unhappy, I see it as a responsibility I have to take upon myself because society as a whole is driven by excess. I don’t have to get “extra” exercise or watch what I eat because life is unfair. I have to do it because humans, particularly Americans, have no sense of limitations anymore. We’re batshit insane. We’ve forgotten that even having access to 2000 calories a day is a luxury, not a prison.

            No one thing will make you happy, but I know for sure I was more depressed every day feeling like that, also knowing that literally no one I ever found attractive would feel the same about me. Once I lost all the weight, getting dates was much easier and I even got myself into long term relationships for the first time. I actually feel like I was cheated in life because no one ever told me I was fat. I 100% was. I was treated as “normal” and at the same time I think people pitied and avoided me subconsciously

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            Savouring bites shouldn’t be something you feel like you “have” to do but should be something you enjoy to do. Mindful eating. Small bites, chew thoroughly, enjoy all of the flavors. If you eat slower and chew your food properly it has many benefits: improved digestion, improved nutrient intake, better enjoyment of all of the diverse flavors, you notice that you are actually full when you get full and not after you have eaten far more than your body needs.

            This is not a chore, it makes eating far more enjoyable. And if you eat when you’re actually hungry instead of just when you habitually eat, the food tastes even better. You make these things sound bad, but they are one of my favorite parts of life. I love eating more than I used to and I eat far less than I used to.

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            I don’t want to assume, but it seems to me that you haven’t really changed your relationship to food on an emotional level. I lost a lot of weight and don’t feel like you at all, because I changed my relationship to food to one of fuel instead of comfort or fun. It’s not easy, but it’s important. And it’s not like I hate food or anything, I still like food obviously, but when I’m filling up my plate for dinner I put enough on it to feed my actual physical hunger, not some emotional hunger for dopamine. The fact that it’s delicious is an added bonus, not the main event.

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          You are cold all the fucking time though. I mean, it sucked to be hot and sweaty all the time too, I guess. But I used to only be uncomfortable and hot for 3 months during summer, and now I’m uncomfortable and cold for 9 months.

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            Even if you wear warmer clothes, you’re cold?

            I have this issue occasionally but it’s not bad on my end. I’m usually the one comfortable while heavier people around me complain they are “hot” all the time. They’ll be hot in 70 degree F weather, whereas to me that’s paradise

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              I went from 160 at the start of the pandemic to 115 now, and I’m freezing all the time. I double up on socks and a long sleeve undershirt lol. Summer was great when we got into the 90s and it wasn’t too windy, I could enjoy the clothes I can fit in now!

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            Can confirm, it sucks ass being hot all the time. It’s still triple digits temps outside in fucking fall, and my ass is a space heater. It’s hot everywhere, all the time. Only when it’s like the low 70s that I’m comfortable. If I do any movement though, I’m sweaty again. It has to hit 40s for me to not be immediately hot with activity, and by that time it’s too damn cold.

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      If we are arguing that way then you don’t need to be skinny to be healthy. There is a middle ground between skinny and overweight.

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      No! You have to count every calorie meticulously, swap every meal for boring salad and run ten miles every day!

      I’m way too busy to do any of that, I get chronic hunger pains before bed and I’m also a super taster which means anything but KFC, donuts and coca cola is super unpalatable to me!

      How dare you insinuate that I’m obese because I can’t just eat a little less, you don’t know my body, my will power is actually amazing except when it comes to putting down the fork! Eating a bit less is extremely hard you fucking fat hater!

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        ypur comment does read like something from /r/fatpeoplehate

        I would encourage you to be more empathetic towards people strugglong with weight issues, or at least be less of a dick about it, that doesn’t help amyone

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      no it’s very much about what you eat, if you put a bunch of greens in your food you’ll feel satisfied much faster and for longer.

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    get regular exercise and be both. Literally like 40% of my motivation for staying active is that it lets me eat more.

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      you cannot exercise your way out of a bad diet is the general advise. a snickers bar is 73 calories and to burn 100 calories you have to run a 10 minute mile.

      you simply can accumulate calories at a way faster rate than you can reasonably exercise.

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        That’s a good point but it’s also important to note that a Snickers bar has much less nutritional value than the cheeseburger shown in the original image. So if you’re training for a marathon or something, you can totally get away with a cheeseburger every night, but not the equivalent amount of snickers (you will feel like absolute shite)

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        i think that’s technically true but reductive, you will continue to burn calories at a higher rate for quite a while after any reasonably strenous exercise and as you get stronger it becomes easier to burn more calories, thus letting you increase your daily calorie budget.

        I’m not saying that five minutes of cardio will suddenly let you eat 5 cakes, but have you seen the diets that weightlifters keep? with a lot of muscle and frequent heavy exercise you can burn such an amount of calories every day that eating 3 pizzas is a good starter course.

        Also we aren’t talking about a bad diet, just eating a bit too much. Of course exercise isn’t going to fix you eating snickers instead of vegetables but it will absolutely fix eating one too many burgers.

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          That’s it. If you’re bulking eating 3k calories a day is normal. The more muscle you get, the more you have to eat to maintain your form(or eat less to effectively burn body fat). Of course, you want to eat healthy, meaning that eating 3 burgers a day is probably not the best thing, since it has a lot of fat in it.

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            fat isn’t unhealthy, it’s just calorie dense. The only issue i see with eating 3 burgers per day is that you should be eating a varied diet to make sure you don’t get too little or too much of any one nutrient or potential toxin. Plus burgers have too much meat compared to the amount of greens…

            and honestly 3 burgers per day is a completely normal amount of food, too little if anything. Even with fries that’s about as much as most people would eat in a day.

            but really “eating healthy” is basically just a matter of not eating a significant amount of sugar and getting as much greens as possible, making sure 90% of what you consume is home-made (even if that includes quite a lot of pastries) is pretty fool-proof. Just make your own burgers and add some more lettuce.

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    In Las Vegas, we have a local chain called SkinnyFats that has two menus, a “healthy” menu and a “happy” menu

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    Name one ingredient in that burger that is unhealthy. Bread? Meat? Cheese? Greens? Half a teaspoon of ketchup? Just check your caloric intake and eat whatever the heck you want.

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      That amount of downvotes you’re getting because fat people hate hearing that “yes, you could just eat a bit less!”

      Your bodyweight is 100% correlated to the amount of calories you consume/burn. Eat less calories than your base metabolic rate and you could lose weight on a diet of pizza and just sitting on the sofa all day!

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      Bread - processed crap with minimal micronutrients, preservatives and coloring agent (for nice white flour /s)

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      There doesn’t really exist an “healthy” or “unhealthy” food, it’s just about your eating habits…

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    Switch to things with more protein, it keeps you sated with fewer calories. Count calories, not too torture yourself, but to train yourself to make better choices. Do a few simple strength exercises every day, to build muscle and to stay motivated.

    Source: down ~20kg from top weight

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        lol except studies are more and more showing that red meat is actually not particularly good for you, and steaks are quite possibly the least ethical thing to eat.

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          Depends which studies you look at. There’s studies to support vegetarian diet is the healthiest, same for omnivore and same for carnivore. Even MDs can’t come to an agreement.

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          Only if you accept a premise of animal life mattering and/or sacrificing enjoyment for the climate

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    I lost 35lbs eating burgers and pizza. These things aren’t mutually exclusive. The fact that people think they are is a testament to how poor health education is.